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Ian D

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:46 pm
Post subject: Very interesting FS website
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While digging through the FSInsider page I arrived at
this page, very interesting. The page discusses FSX
multi-threading on Core 2 Duo and Quad CPU's. Also,
there is a link to a complete FS history, and most
interesting, a link to downloading all the early FS
versions from FS1 for the Apple II to FS5.1. These
will run in emulation, in XP, probably Vista also.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3689/sponsored_feature_microsoft...hp?page

Link to early versions:

http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/
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Andrew Sutcliffe

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:51 pm
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Wonderful find and a nice site too......this brought back sooo many
memories...

Thanks

Andrew

"Ian D" <taurus.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:eMednXlXlceYoGfVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> While digging through the FSInsider page I arrived at
> this page, very interesting. The page discusses FSX
> multi-threading on Core 2 Duo and Quad CPU's. Also,
> there is a link to a complete FS history, and most
> interesting, a link to downloading all the early FS
> versions from FS1 for the Apple II to FS5.1. These
> will run in emulation, in XP, probably Vista also.
>
> http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3689/sponsored_feature_microsoft...hp?page
>
> Link to early versions:
>
> http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/
>
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donneybutts

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:01 am
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On Oct 19, 9:51 am, "Andrew Sutcliffe"
<andrew.sutcli....DeleteThis@btconnect.com> wrote:
> Wonderful find and a nice site too......this brought back sooo many
> memories...
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrew
>
> "Ian D" <tau....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>
> news:eMednXlXlceYoGfVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> > While digging through the FSInsider page I arrived at
> > this page, very interesting.  The page discusses FSX
> > multi-threading on Core 2 Duo and Quad CPU's.  Also,
> > there is a link to a complete FS history, and most
> > interesting, a link to downloading all the early FS
> > versions from FS1 for the Apple II to FS5.1.  These
> > will run in emulation, in XP, probably Vista also.
>
> >http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3689/sponsored_feature_microsof...
>
> > Link to early versions:
>
> >http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for that. I came in about 1998 so have been simming for 10
years.
I can't remember FS2000b update?? It supposed to have smoothed it out

Butts
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Ian D

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:32 am
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<donneybutts.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:21389181-f273-4046-b09e-781c078307af@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 19, 9:51 am, "Andrew Sutcliffe"
<andrew.sutcli....RemoveThis@btconnect.com> wrote:
> Wonderful find and a nice site too......this brought back sooo many
> memories...
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrew
>
> "Ian D" <tau....RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>
> news:eMednXlXlceYoGfVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> > While digging through the FSInsider page I arrived at
> > this page, very interesting. The page discusses FSX
> > multi-threading on Core 2 Duo and Quad CPU's. Also,
> > there is a link to a complete FS history, and most
> > interesting, a link to downloading all the early FS
> > versions from FS1 for the Apple II to FS5.1. These
> > will run in emulation, in XP, probably Vista also.
>
> >http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3689/sponsored_feature_microsof...
>
> > Link to early versions:
>
> >http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for that. I came in about 1998 so have been simming for 10
years.
I can't remember FS2000b update?? It supposed to have smoothed it out

Butts

I have FS2000 Pro. In total 3 patches were released, patch 1, patch 2,
and patch 2b. As I remember, there was an error in patch 2, and 2b
quicky replaced it. I downloaded patch 1 in Jan/00, and patch 2b
in Dec/00. There was also a patch released for FS Edit, which came
with the Pro version.

This NG and microsoft.public.simulators, were very vocal back then
about the problems with FS2000, and I'm sure that's what led to the
updates, and updates for subsequent FS versions. The FS NGs
caught, and kept MS's attention.

ID
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:25 pm
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On Oct 20, 11:32 am, "Ian D" <tau....RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
> This NG and microsoft.public.simulators, were very vocal back then
> about the problems with FS2000, and I'm sure that's what led to the
> updates, and updates for subsequent FS versions. The FS NGs
> caught, and kept MS's attention.

WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO NOW TO GET THEIR ATTENTION???? HAVEN'T WE BEEN
VOCAL ENOUGH? Obviously, MS has become hard of hearing. Why do I
have to buy programs to tweak the deficiencies in their software
design? Why don't they do it? When I buy a new car, it is under
warranty bumper to bumper for THREE years. Software should be as
well. I know we've chewed this up and spit it out a zillion times,
but it does feel good to give out a primal scream once in a
while......besides, no one is listening.

Arthur
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Ian D

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:26 pm
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"SnakeEyes" <agalspector RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 20, 11:32 am, "Ian D" <tau... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:

>
> This NG and microsoft.public.simulators, were very vocal back then
> about the problems with FS2000, and I'm sure that's what led to the
> updates, and updates for subsequent FS versions. The FS NGs
> caught, and kept MS's attention.

WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO NOW TO GET THEIR ATTENTION???? HAVEN'T WE BEEN
VOCAL ENOUGH? Obviously, MS has become hard of hearing. Why do I
have to buy programs to tweak the deficiencies in their software
design? Why don't they do it? When I buy a new car, it is under
warranty bumper to bumper for THREE years. Software should be as
well. I know we've chewed this up and spit it out a zillion times,
but it does feel good to give out a primal scream once in a
while......besides, no one is listening.

Arthur


Phil Taylor was listening, but apparently he's no longer
with the team. At least we got SP1 and SP2 for FSX.
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TOCA

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:06 pm
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"Ian D" <taurus.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:dOadnZEuX8EAOWHVnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> <donneybutts.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:21389181-f273-4046-b09e-781c078307af@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 19, 9:51 am, "Andrew Sutcliffe"
> <andrew.sutcli....DeleteThis@btconnect.com> wrote:
>> Wonderful find and a nice site too......this brought back sooo many
>> memories...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> "Ian D" <tau....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:eMednXlXlceYoGfVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > While digging through the FSInsider page I arrived at
>> > this page, very interesting. The page discusses FSX
>> > multi-threading on Core 2 Duo and Quad CPU's. Also,
>> > there is a link to a complete FS history, and most
>> > interesting, a link to downloading all the early FS
>> > versions from FS1 for the Apple II to FS5.1. These
>> > will run in emulation, in XP, probably Vista also.
>>
>> >http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3689/sponsored_feature_microsof...
>>
>> > Link to early versions:
>>
>> >http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanks for that. I came in about 1998 so have been simming for 10
> years.
> I can't remember FS2000b update?? It supposed to have smoothed it out
>
> Butts
>
> I have FS2000 Pro. In total 3 patches were released, patch 1, patch 2,
> and patch 2b. As I remember, there was an error in patch 2, and 2b
> quicky replaced it. I downloaded patch 1 in Jan/00, and patch 2b
> in Dec/00. There was also a patch released for FS Edit, which came
> with the Pro version.
>
> This NG and microsoft.public.simulators, were very vocal back then
> about the problems with FS2000, and I'm sure that's what led to the
> updates, and updates for subsequent FS versions. The FS NGs
> caught, and kept MS's attention.
>
> ID
>

As I recall it, the updates for FS2K were mostly scenery fixes, they never
got around to fix the biggest issue, the CPU hogging. Today I can run it at
max settings with darn good FR's, but back then it took a state of the art
top shelve PC to run it at even mid range settings Surprised/

FSX of that time ;o)

I'm still missing the "No CD" hack/crack, as it got lost during a puter
breakdown some years ago Surprised(

Tommy C, Denmark
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:06 pm
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"TOCA" <Not.TakeThisOut@valid.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ian D" <taurus.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:dOadnZEuX8EAOWHVnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> <donneybutts.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:21389181-f273-4046-b09e-781c078307af@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> On Oct 19, 9:51 am, "Andrew Sutcliffe"
>> <andrew.sutcli....TakeThisOut@btconnect.com> wrote:
>>> Wonderful find and a nice site too......this brought back sooo many
>>> memories...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> "Ian D" <tau....TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:eMednXlXlceYoGfVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > While digging through the FSInsider page I arrived at
>>> > this page, very interesting. The page discusses FSX
>>> > multi-threading on Core 2 Duo and Quad CPU's. Also,
>>> > there is a link to a complete FS history, and most
>>> > interesting, a link to downloading all the early FS
>>> > versions from FS1 for the Apple II to FS5.1. These
>>> > will run in emulation, in XP, probably Vista also.
>>>
>>> >http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3689/sponsored_feature_microsof...
>>>
>>> > Link to early versions:
>>>
>>> >http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Thanks for that. I came in about 1998 so have been simming for 10
>> years.
>> I can't remember FS2000b update?? It supposed to have smoothed it out
>>
>> Butts
>>
>> I have FS2000 Pro. In total 3 patches were released, patch 1, patch 2,
>> and patch 2b. As I remember, there was an error in patch 2, and 2b
>> quicky replaced it. I downloaded patch 1 in Jan/00, and patch 2b
>> in Dec/00. There was also a patch released for FS Edit, which came
>> with the Pro version.
>>
>> This NG and microsoft.public.simulators, were very vocal back then
>> about the problems with FS2000, and I'm sure that's what led to the
>> updates, and updates for subsequent FS versions. The FS NGs
>> caught, and kept MS's attention.
>>
>> ID
>>
>
> As I recall it, the updates for FS2K were mostly scenery fixes, they never
> got around to fix the biggest issue, the CPU hogging. Today I can run it
> at max settings with darn good FR's, but back then it took a state of the
> art top shelve PC to run it at even mid range settings Surprised/
>
> FSX of that time ;o)
>
> I'm still missing the "No CD" hack/crack, as it got lost during a puter
> breakdown some years ago Surprised(
>
> Tommy C, Denmark
>
>

Do you have FS2000 Std or Pro?

NoCD for FS2000 2b Std can be found here:
Scroll down to 3rd January 2002
http://www.roychaffin.com/newsarch.html

For 2b Pro, scroll down a bit.
http://www.roychaffin.com/fixes.html
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:44 pm
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"Ian D" <taurus.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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>
>
> Do you have FS2000 Std or Pro?
>
> NoCD for FS2000 2b Std can be found here:
> Scroll down to 3rd January 2002
> http://www.roychaffin.com/newsarch.html
>
> For 2b Pro, scroll down a bit.
> http://www.roychaffin.com/fixes.html
>
>
>

Pro ofcourse Surprised)

Thanks for the link, most links I found for this outdated gem were, well
outdated and non working.

I really like the Adventures in FS2K, they were waaaaay better than the ones
in FS9 Surprised)

Tommy C, Denmark
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:52 pm
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"TOCA" <Not DeleteThis @valid.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ian D" <taurus DeleteThis @nowhere.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:baSdnfdwZJSSemHVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>
>> Do you have FS2000 Std or Pro?
>>
>> NoCD for FS2000 2b Std can be found here:
>> Scroll down to 3rd January 2002
>> http://www.roychaffin.com/newsarch.html
>>
>> For 2b Pro, scroll down a bit.
>> http://www.roychaffin.com/fixes.html
>>
>>
>>
>
> Pro ofcourse Surprised)
>
> Thanks for the link, most links I found for this outdated gem were, well
> outdated and non working.
>
> I really like the Adventures in FS2K, they were waaaaay better than the
> ones in FS9 Surprised)
>
> Tommy C, Denmark
>
>
I assume you got the 2b NoCD okay. The adventure I found
challenging was the 777 high altitude landing test out of
Denver. Tough landing a 777 in a high altitude valley on a
short (for a 777) runway that you can't see until you're almost
on top of it. The biggest problem was losing altitude in a hurry
without gaining too much speed.
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