What happened to all those UO related posts?

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:36:52 -0800, orionca.DeleteThis@earthlink.net wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:34:51 +0200, Ninja Warrior <ninja.DeleteThis@inco.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Its a shame to check this newsgroup after such a long time and find it
>>like a desert full of sand (messages) but with nothing of value or to
>>do with UO. Where are all those UO posts? Where are all the UO
>>questions? Where are the UO Tips and tricks? Why do we have to read
>>all this spam and some comments from some twerp that thinks we are
>>loners? One of the many reasons I think a lot have left this news
>>group is due to the Excessive Spam advertising on this board.
>
>"board"?
>
>>So for
>>you spamers get your hint go spam elsewhere, and save your selfs some
>>time and us some harrasment. As for me I am sad to say I wont be
>>checking this message board for a while. Hope it gets better soon, and
>>I hope the messages that get posted soon have something to do with the
>>game and not something else.
>>
>>Ninja
>
>Have a clue, free of charge: Spammers don't read the newsgroups they
>invade: They usually use a 'bot to blast their ads to a bunch of
>different groups all at once and wait for the suckers to beat a path
>to their doors. Complaining about them in the groups is pointless and
>actually adds to the disruption they cause.
>
>RGCUO is pretty dead because the game is exfensively supported over on
>the UO Stratics web forum. Once Upon a Time the devs stopped in here
>regularly to chat; now they spend all their time and energy over on
>uo.stratics.com. As time went by the old "regulars" who spent way too
>many hours here jawing about PKs, bugs, the Lag Monster, etc., either
>quit the game or took their complaints to stratics. New players
>started off there and probably don't even know this newsgroup exists.

I feel like a dinosaur.

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UO's numbers have significantly dwindled, which I suppose would explain a
lot of it. When the shards start to become ghost towns, the fan sites and
resources will likely follow accordingly.
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Regards,
Avatorian Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

"Ninja Warrior" <ninja.DeleteThis@inco.com> wrote in message
news:q148m3t8qgqjcu94a2pf7pcvcd5rvh632j@4ax.com...
> Its a shame to check this newsgroup after such a long time and find it
> like a desert full of sand (messages) but with nothing of value or to
> do with UO. Where are all those UO posts? Where are all the UO
> questions? Where are the UO Tips and tricks? Why do we have to read
> all this spam and some comments from some twerp that thinks we are
> loners? One of the many reasons I think a lot have left this news
> group is due to the Excessive Spam advertising on this board. So for
> you spamers get your hint go spam elsewhere, and save your selfs some
> time and us some harrasment. As for me I am sad to say I wont be
> checking this message board for a while. Hope it gets better soon, and
> I hope the messages that get posted soon have something to do with the
> game and not something else.
>
> Ninja

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:39:10 -0600, "Avatorian" <avatorian.RemoveThis@udic.org>
wrote:

>UO's numbers have significantly dwindled, which I suppose would explain a
>lot of it. When the shards start to become ghost towns, the fan sites and
>resources will likely follow accordingly.

No,the crowd moved to the message boards,plenty of postings daily on
UOstratics.
Not that I consider this a good thing,usenet is much more convenient
to read,but who could resist the temptation to add a picture to his
sig ?

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:26:19 +0100, Ulandx.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:39:10 -0600, "Avatorian" <avatorian.TakeThisOut@udic.org>
>wrote:
>
>>UO's numbers have significantly dwindled, which I suppose would explain a
>>lot of it. When the shards start to become ghost towns, the fan sites and
>>resources will likely follow accordingly.
>
>No,the crowd moved to the message boards,plenty of postings daily on
>UOstratics.
>Not that I consider this a good thing,usenet is much more convenient
>to read,but who could resist the temptation to add a picture to his
>sig ?

Oh Absolutly! I mean when you cannot add anything content wise.... zip
things up with an awesome pic!

I absolutly HATE forum crawling. Leafing through the myraid of LOL and
"How True" and "TY" posts that just clutter your screen! It's a waste!

Skinner1.DeleteThis@hotmail.com contributed wisdom to
news:itnns35acfr8esmab92n6a6ps2ka8goljr@4ax.com:

> I absolutly HATE forum crawling. Leafing through the myraid of LOL and
> "How True" and "TY" posts that just clutter your screen! It's a waste!

Particularly when most of the post is just that picture and a sig so they
can send a one-word post.

The debate went back and forth for a long time in the internet protocol
forums. Whether or not enforcing a no-binary rules except in binary
newsgroups, even to the point of banning html in posts. Should the X-
image rules be expanded to allow color. Should the sig rules be expanded.

It was a long debate about whether or not to expand newsgroup posts
making them 10x larger for the same amount of text content, or leave them
bare ascii. Both sides felt strongly that it would be the death of the
usenet. Would overloading the servers until only a few bothered to run
any be what killed usenet? Or would not allowing more personalization in
postings which people are getting used to on the web be what killed
usenet?

Personally I think we were stuck between a rock and a hard place. Both
were right.

Gandalf Parker
--
Ive been a part of running internet for as long as internet has been
called internet.

Ulandx.RemoveThis@hotmail.com contributed wisdom to
news:ir1ps31ml2t3moqeifes5t2s0207m4njp9@4ax.com:

> you can be sure half a dozen clueless newbies will respond with
> "disable your router,firewall"or other unrelated stuff.

Everything has its pros and cons. The fact that the worst of the clueless
newbies cant find their way here (unless some idiot shows them news.google)
is a slight benefit.

Which reminds me of a quote of mine that shows up sometimes....
"It used to be that you had to learn DOS to get to and learn UNIX to get
to and learn Internet. We had some rude people but no stupid ones. Then
Windows created "user friendly" connections and we got "users" who could
only use a computer but knew nothing about it. Then AOL created
foolproof connections for those who couldnt figure out Windows and we
got fools. Then WebTV created idiot-proof connections and it seems to be
doing a great job of it. Now we have Xbox but Ive run out of words."

Gandalf Parker

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:25:04 -0500, Skinner1 DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:26:19 +0100, Ulandx DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:39:10 -0600, "Avatorian" <avatorian DeleteThis @udic.org>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>UO's numbers have significantly dwindled, which I suppose would explain a
>>>lot of it. When the shards start to become ghost towns, the fan sites and
>>>resources will likely follow accordingly.
>>
>>No,the crowd moved to the message boards,plenty of postings daily on
>>UOstratics.
>>Not that I consider this a good thing,usenet is much more convenient
>>to read,but who could resist the temptation to add a picture to his
>>sig ?
>
>Oh Absolutly! I mean when you cannot add anything content wise.... zip
>things up with an awesome pic!
>
>I absolutly HATE forum crawling. Leafing through the myraid of LOL and
>"How True" and "TY" posts that just clutter your screen! It's a waste!


Well,there are still some decent posters worth reading,of course
nothing like the Ice-Undertaker debates or postings from Dundee
here in the early UO-years.
My problem is more with the format of a forum compared to a
usenet-group.

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:26:19 +0100, Ulandx.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:39:10 -0600, "Avatorian" <avatorian.TakeThisOut@udic.org>
> wrote:
>
>>UO's numbers have significantly dwindled, which I suppose would explain a
>>lot of it. When the shards start to become ghost towns, the fan sites and
>>resources will likely follow accordingly.
>
> No,the crowd moved to the message boards,plenty of postings daily on
> UOstratics.
> Not that I consider this a good thing,usenet is much more convenient
> to read,but who could resist the temptation to add a picture to his
> sig ?

Ah yes, of that I have no doubt. Still, after having watched my own shard
shrink to barely nothing, I have a fairly jaded view of UO's numbers. It is
also somewhat disturbing that EAMythic almost completely neglects other
fansites.
--
Regards,
Avatorian Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

On 03 Mar 2008 13:51:46 GMT, Gandalf Parker
<gandalf.RemoveThis@the.dead.ISP.of.Community.net> wrote:

>Skinner1@hotmail.com contributed wisdom to
>news:itnns35acfr8esmab92n6a6ps2ka8goljr@4ax.com:
>
>> I absolutly HATE forum crawling. Leafing through the myraid of LOL and
>> "How True" and "TY" posts that just clutter your screen! It's a waste!
>
>Particularly when most of the post is just that picture and a sig so they
>can send a one-word post.
>
>The debate went back and forth for a long time in the internet protocol
>forums. Whether or not enforcing a no-binary rules except in binary
>newsgroups, even to the point of banning html in posts. Should the X-
>image rules be expanded to allow color. Should the sig rules be expanded.
>
>It was a long debate about whether or not to expand newsgroup posts
>making them 10x larger for the same amount of text content, or leave them
>bare ascii. Both sides felt strongly that it would be the death of the
>usenet. Would overloading the servers until only a few bothered to run
>any be what killed usenet? Or would not allowing more personalization in
>postings which people are getting used to on the web be what killed
>usenet?
>
>Personally I think we were stuck between a rock and a hard place. Both
>were right.
>
>Gandalf Parker

It's the incessant need for glitz and "bling". The USENET is still
very viable. But you are right. It's cumbersome to use to those that
want the instant gratification of a 2 mouse click pathway pretty
colors and the convenience of Web Forums.

On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:18:44 +0100, Ulandx RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:25:04 -0500, Skinner1 RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:26:19 +0100, Ulandx RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:39:10 -0600, "Avatorian" <avatorian RemoveThis @udic.org>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>UO's numbers have significantly dwindled, which I suppose would explain a
>>>>lot of it. When the shards start to become ghost towns, the fan sites and
>>>>resources will likely follow accordingly.
>>>
>>>No,the crowd moved to the message boards,plenty of postings daily on
>>>UOstratics.
>>>Not that I consider this a good thing,usenet is much more convenient
>>>to read,but who could resist the temptation to add a picture to his
>>>sig ?
>>
>>Oh Absolutly! I mean when you cannot add anything content wise.... zip
>>things up with an awesome pic!
>>
>>I absolutly HATE forum crawling. Leafing through the myraid of LOL and
>>"How True" and "TY" posts that just clutter your screen! It's a waste!
>
>
>Well,there are still some decent posters worth reading,of course
>nothing like the Ice-Undertaker debates or postings from Dundee
>here in the early UO-years.
>My problem is more with the format of a forum compared to a
>usenet-group.
>

USENET was the backbone of the Internet! It is the oldest part of the
internet too! It was developed to allow quick - CLEAR communication
avenues for passing information.

On 03 Mar 2008 23:55:36 GMT, Gandalf Parker
<gandalf.TakeThisOut@the.dead.ISP.of.Community.net> wrote:

>Ulandx@hotmail.com contributed wisdom to
>news:ir1ps31ml2t3moqeifes5t2s0207m4njp9@4ax.com:
>
>> you can be sure half a dozen clueless newbies will respond with
>> "disable your router,firewall"or other unrelated stuff.
>
>Everything has its pros and cons. The fact that the worst of the clueless
>newbies cant find their way here (unless some idiot shows them news.google)
>is a slight benefit.
>

I will agree and add that it's not a slight benifit... rather a very
welcome benifit!

>Which reminds me of a quote of mine that shows up sometimes....
>"It used to be that you had to learn DOS to get to and learn UNIX to get
>to and learn Internet. We had some rude people but no stupid ones. Then
>Windows created "user friendly" connections and we got "users" who could
>only use a computer but knew nothing about it. Then AOL created
>foolproof connections for those who couldnt figure out Windows and we
>got fools. Then WebTV created idiot-proof connections and it seems to be
>doing a great job of it. Now we have Xbox but Ive run out of words."
>
>Gandalf Parker

LOL. How very true!

Skinner1.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:18:44 +0100, Ulandx.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:25:04 -0500, Skinner1.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:26:19 +0100, Ulandx.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:39:10 -0600, "Avatorian" <avatorian.DeleteThis@udic.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> UO's numbers have significantly dwindled, which I suppose would explain a
>>>>> lot of it. When the shards start to become ghost towns, the fan sites and
>>>>> resources will likely follow accordingly.
>>>> No,the crowd moved to the message boards,plenty of postings daily on
>>>> UOstratics.
>>>> Not that I consider this a good thing,usenet is much more convenient
>>>> to read,but who could resist the temptation to add a picture to his
>>>> sig ?
>>> Oh Absolutly! I mean when you cannot add anything content wise.... zip
>>> things up with an awesome pic!
>>>
>>> I absolutly HATE forum crawling. Leafing through the myraid of LOL and
>>> "How True" and "TY" posts that just clutter your screen! It's a waste!
>>
>> Well,there are still some decent posters worth reading,of course
>> nothing like the Ice-Undertaker debates or postings from Dundee
>> here in the early UO-years.
>> My problem is more with the format of a forum compared to a
>> usenet-group.
>>
>
> USENET was the backbone of the Internet! It is the oldest part of the
> internet too! It was developed to allow quick - CLEAR communication
> avenues for passing information.
>

And then AOL happened, followed by posts from google and chinese
spammers...

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