drop trap in combat?

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:33:12 GMT, Ashen Shugar wrote:
> I think it was "Dennis Jansen" <dennis_jansen RemoveThis @zonnet.com> that wrote
> something like...
>
> >In pvp battles I sometimes see a hunter fight melee, drop out of combat, put
> >a trap down and take some distance as his target steps on the trap to
> >continue fighting ranged.
> >
> >How does this work? How do you leave combat mode while being attacked?
> >And to make it work really fast, I suppose they use a macro. Which macro?
> >
> >As I would like to be better in pvp this seems a must have technique!!
>
> As I recall, you have to feign death, drop your pet out of combat
> somehow, then you can unfeign and be out of combat and able to drop a
> trap. There's a macro somewhere to do it.
> More details than that I don't know.

Actually, you need to take your pet out of comabt *before* you FD. You need
to set it to passive to reliably do that. Then feign death, get up again,
drop the trap and then re-atack with your pet and yourself.

As for macros, try googling for ["feign death" pet passive] or something, I
am sure you will find something. A solution has been posted to this group a
couple of weeks ago, but I can't recall what the subject of the post was.

Cheers
Urbin

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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:16:01 +0200, "Dennis Jansen"
<dennis_jansen.DeleteThis@zonnet.com> wrote:

>Hey all,
>
>In pvp battles I sometimes see a hunter fight melee, drop out of combat, put
>a trap down and take some distance as his target steps on the trap to
>continue fighting ranged.
>
>How does this work? How do you leave combat mode while being attacked?
>And to make it work really fast, I suppose they use a macro. Which macro?
>
>As I would like to be better in pvp this seems a must have technique!!
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Dennis
>
Hunter "Disengage" spell, first learnt at level 20.

Cheers - Ian

> Hunter "Disengage" spell, first learnt at level 20.
>
> Cheers - Ian

Yes, I know about Disengage. It just doesn't seem to work most of the time.

Regards,

Dennis

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:50:58 +0200, Dennis Jansen wrote:
> > Hunter "Disengage" spell, first learnt at level 20.
> >
> > Cheers - Ian
>
> Yes, I know about Disengage. It just doesn't seem to work most of the time.

Disengage does *not* take you out of combat. It just helps to loose aggro
back to your pet (or some other person).

Cheers
Urbin

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Dennis Jansen wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> In pvp battles I sometimes see a hunter fight melee, drop out of combat, put
> a trap down and take some distance as his target steps on the trap to
> continue fighting ranged.
>
> How does this work? How do you leave combat mode while being attacked?
> And to make it work really fast, I suppose they use a macro. Which macro?
>
> As I would like to be better in pvp this seems a must have technique!!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dennis
>
>
>

Have Pet on Passive
Scatter Shot - takes pet out of combat
FD
Drop Trap




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"Dennis Jansen" <dennis_jansen RemoveThis @zonnet.com> wrote in message
news:f2d7b$44cab6cc$52acd09c$24182@news.versatel.net...
> Hey all,
>
> In pvp battles I sometimes see a hunter fight melee, drop out of combat,
> put a trap down and take some distance as his target steps on the trap to
> continue fighting ranged.
>
> How does this work? How do you leave combat mode while being attacked?
> And to make it work really fast, I suppose they use a macro. Which macro?
>
> As I would like to be better in pvp this seems a must have technique!!


Make a macro

/cast Freezing Trap
/script PetWait(); PetPassiveMode(); ClearTarget();
/cast Feign Death

(you need to have the capitalization and spacing exactly as shown...
copy/paste would probably be your best shot.)

You have to mash it for a couple of seconds due to global cooldowns.

HTH

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60 Rogue
60 Hunter

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:36:48 +0000 (UTC), Urbin <urbin.TakeThisOut@dunmorogh.eu>
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:50:58 +0200, Dennis Jansen wrote:
>> > Hunter "Disengage" spell, first learnt at level 20.
>> >
>> > Cheers - Ian
>>
>> Yes, I know about Disengage. It just doesn't seem to work most of the time.
>
>Disengage does *not* take you out of combat. It just helps to loose aggro
>back to your pet (or some other person).
>

A rather misleading description, it seems. "Attempts to disengage
from the target, reducing threat. Character exits combat mode."
Unfortunately, out of combat *mode* turns out not to be the same as
out of combat - just tried a few times to be sure, and you're correct.
No wonder it's never worked for me.

Cheers - Ian

Ian Noble wrote:
> >Disengage does *not* take you out of combat. It just helps to loose aggro
> >back to your pet (or some other person).
> A rather misleading description, it seems. "Attempts to disengage
> from the target, reducing threat. Character exits combat mode."
> Unfortunately, out of combat *mode* turns out not to be the same as
> out of combat - just tried a few times to be sure, and you're correct.
> No wonder it's never worked for me.

Bit confusing description. What they mean though by leaving 'combat
mode' is that it takes off your auto-attack. Otherwise, you'd try
letting them know you're not dangerous followed immediately by a
back-hand when they turn around.

~Shayylynn
NE Hunter of Alexstrasza

Doc a écrit :

> "Dennis Jansen" <dennis_jansen DeleteThis @zonnet.com> wrote in message
> news:f2d7b$44cab6cc$52acd09c$24182@news.versatel.net...
> > Hey all,
> >
> > In pvp battles I sometimes see a hunter fight melee, drop out of combat,
> > put a trap down and take some distance as his target steps on the trap to
> > continue fighting ranged.
> >
> > How does this work? How do you leave combat mode while being attacked?
> > And to make it work really fast, I suppose they use a macro. Which macro?
> >
> > As I would like to be better in pvp this seems a must have technique!!
>
>
> Make a macro
>
> /cast Freezing Trap
> /script PetWait(); PetPassiveMode(); ClearTarget();
> /cast Feign Death
>
> (you need to have the capitalization and spacing exactly as shown...
> copy/paste would probably be your best shot.)
>
> You have to mash it for a couple of seconds due to global cooldowns.
>
> HTH

The same way vanish sometimes fail, this one sometimes fail too. If the
pet is struck between the feign death global cooldown and the freezing
trap/drink crystal water action, then you pop back in combat. Better to
use it when the pet is far away - because he will run to you instead
of staying where he is.

Babe Bridou wrote:
> Doc a écrit :
>
> > "Dennis Jansen" <dennis_jansen DeleteThis @zonnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:f2d7b$44cab6cc$52acd09c$24182@news.versatel.net...
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > In pvp battles I sometimes see a hunter fight melee, drop out of combat,
> > > put a trap down and take some distance as his target steps on the trap to
> > > continue fighting ranged.
> > >
> > > How does this work? How do you leave combat mode while being attacked?
> > > And to make it work really fast, I suppose they use a macro. Which macro?
> > >
> > > As I would like to be better in pvp this seems a must have technique!!
> >
> >
> > Make a macro
> >
> > /cast Freezing Trap
> > /script PetWait(); PetPassiveMode(); ClearTarget();
> > /cast Feign Death
> >
> > (you need to have the capitalization and spacing exactly as shown...
> > copy/paste would probably be your best shot.)
> >
> > You have to mash it for a couple of seconds due to global cooldowns.
> >
> > HTH
>
> The same way vanish sometimes fail, this one sometimes fail too. If the
> pet is struck between the feign death global cooldown and the freezing
> trap/drink crystal water action, then you pop back in combat. Better to
> use it when the pet is far away - because he will run to you instead
> of staying where he is.

Can fail if you are hit too, you got to be quick. I uss it all the time
as a hunter, don't like it though. Seens a "cheap" trick but it's the
difference between winning and losing most 1-on-1 fights.