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ivandurneen

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:33 pm
Post subject: New to Vectrex and have display issues
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Hi guys

New to this group.

Finally got hold of a Vectrex after all these years. Sooooo excited.
Its in really good condition but does have a display problem.

I have only fired this up today and this is what I've found.

The display will sometimes begin to jerk very quickly and exhibit what
I can only describe as 'lightning' type vectors all over the screen.
It then may calm a bit and then do it again. There doesn't really seem
a pattern to it. All the time the game is still playing.

Occasionally the vectors kind of quickly stretch/blur to the left and
then back. Most noticeable on the score numbers or writing. Again this
can be momentary and then be fine for a while.

Any ideas on what will need looking at ??

I'm new to Vectrex but am happy with board repairs - spend most of my
free time with pinball machines.

A pointer to good Vectrex websites would be good too.

Thanks
Ivan
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:07 pm
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>The display will sometimes begin to jerk very quickly and exhibit what

Ivan,
Welcome to the Vectrex world!
I was waiting to see if anybody else (with experience of the problem)
would respond. But since no one has, I'll try and give you a little
info, although I have not experienced the above problems myself and
cannot really give a reason as to what you are seeing.
Could you explain the problem more? - there is a certain amount of
flicker and shimmering of graphics on a Vectrex anyway. Is the problem
frequent or does it get worse the longer the Vectrex is on? - do you
see the effect during the Vectrex startup screen - maybe some more
description of the problem might jog someone elses memory...
There could be any number of reasons why you are seeing this problem:

1) It could be that some of the capacitors are getting a bit dry, and
that you need to replace them. There used to be capacitor replacement
kits available. You can search this newsgroup to find a recent topic
on them - also in the Service Manual you can find a list of the
component values if you want to do it yourself. Also see this link for
a step by step guide (http://lukesandel.com/techgallery2/main.php?
g2_itemId=906 ). I would be curious to know though how many Vectrex
owners did this, and what improvements they saw (I am interested
because I want to write a document in the future for users in order to
help diagnose and solve Vectrex related problems).

2) The other possible component that could be faulty is the SY6522
component. There are previous posts in this newsgroup by users who
have stated that faulty 6522s have given them strange display
problems.

3) Might also be worth considering to reheat the solder pads on the
Vectrex PCBs especially the ones at the connectors.

4) If you are experienced with electronics you might want to go
through the Vectrex trouble shooting guide and run a copy of the test
cart bin to verify voltages/signals to try and isolate the problem.
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT IF ACCESSING THE VECTREX INTERNALS TO DISCHARGE
THE CRT TO AVOID ELECTROCUTION.
(Vectrex trouble shooting guide can be found on www.vectrex.nl under
documentation).


Now an answer to your easier question - the best websites in my
opinion in terms of information are www.vectrex.nl and www.playvectrex.com.

Hoping you get to enjoy the Vectrex graphics as they should be seen.

regards
VectrexMad!
www.vectrex.co.uk
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:52 am
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sorry link for capacitor "how to" was not fully copied.
Should be

http://lukesandel.com/techgallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=906
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:23 am
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On 10 Nov, 12:52, vectrex... RemoveThis @fastmail.fm wrote:
> sorry link for capacitor "how to" was not fully copied.
> Should be
>
> http://lukesandel.com/techgallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=906

Thanks for the reply.

>Could you explain the problem more? - there is a certain amount of
>flicker and shimmering of graphics on a Vectrex anyway. Is the problem
>frequent or does it get worse the longer the Vectrex is on? - do you
>see the effect during the Vectrex startup screen

This isn't just the usual flicker/shimmer. The best I can describe it
is like 'lightening' strikes randomly and quickly all over the screen.

I have just had it on for about 20mins - fine on startup and on the
startup screen, it was ok for about 15 mins with just the *occasional*
graphic glitch but got worse after 20 mins to the point where the
screen was completely garbled/jumping/blurring/ completely going off
then on again.

I will leave it off again now and try it later to see if it does the
same.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:44 am
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> I will leave it off again now and try it later to see if it does the
> same.


OK. Turned it on this morning and it is immediately showing the
display issues. So not a heat/time related issue.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:23 pm
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Digging around the web I have come across this

http://vectrex.classicgaming.gamespy.com/po_repair_j.htm

Posted it here in case it helps others too.

Basically sounds almost exactly like the issues my unit has. So I
guess I'll be taking that the bad boy apart soon and firing up the
soldering iron ! Looks fixable though so thats good.

Feel free to offer any other advice/tips.

Ivan
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:30 am
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On Nov 11, 10:23 pm, ivandurn... RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> Digging around the web I have come across this
>
> http://vectrex.classicgaming.gamespy.com/po_repair_j.htm
>
> Posted it here in case it helps others too.
>
Ivan, if you can, let us (or me) know which fix works...
regards
VectrexMad!
www.vectrex.co.uk
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:41 am
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On 18 Nov, 16:30, vectrex....RemoveThis@fastmail.fm wrote:
> On Nov 11, 10:23 pm, ivandurn....RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:> Digging around the web I have come across this
>
> >http://vectrex.classicgaming.gamespy.com/po_repair_j.htm
>
> > Posted it here in case it helps others too.
>
> Ivan, if you can, let us (or me) know which fix works...
> regards
> VectrexMad!www.vectrex.co.uk

Will do.

Does anyone know if Zanen still do the cap kits ? I emailed them
couple times, no reply.

Thanks
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:57 am
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>
> Does anyone know if Zanen still do the cap kits ? I emailed them
> couple times, no reply.
>

Not sure which country you are in but in the UK you can get all
compatible components from the likes of Maplin Electronics.

The components are listed in the first photo in that link I gave you:

http://lukesandel.com/techgallery2/main.php/v/VideoGameTech/Vectrex-ca...t/vectr

I haven't done the cap kit myself (yet) but that link did say that
some capacitors are missing from the roster.

regards
VectrexMad!
www.vectrex.co.uk
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