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Since: Sep 11, 2005
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(Msg. 31) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Textfyre does not present Eric Eve's Nightfall to Linux users [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Victor Gijsbers wrote:
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> I don't understand why Textfyre didn't use something like Flash instead.
> Flash is as closed and proprietary as Silverlight, but at least there
> are relatively good Flash interpreters for a wide range of systems. (And
> isn't there some real cross-platform way to do this stuff?)
I suppose it's up to us to write something in C(++) to run the stuff ;D |
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:43 pm
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ChicagoDave <david.cornelson RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>I think MS has gone out of their way to make Silverlight work on OS X,
>Windows, FireFox, Safari, IE, and Chrome. The fact that they're even
>thinking about making it work on Linux with mono and Moonlight should
>dispel any crazy conspiracy theories.
On the contrary, it's prime fodder for most conspiracy theorists.
If Microsoft offer you a gift, start looking for the patent encumbrances
and subtle incompatiblities.
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:36 pm
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Martin Read wrote:
> If Microsoft offer you a gift, start looking for the patent encumbrances
> and subtle incompatiblities.
I agree.
I wouldn't like to taint my linux system with software such as
silverlight and mono. In addition, the mono implementation will always
lag far behind the microsoft one.
But it runs fine within virtualbox. It's better than nothing. The output
is really nice and appealing, I just regret it uses this kind of technology. |
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Since: May 07, 2008
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:31 am
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Otto Grimwald ha scritto:
> Martin Read wrote:
>> If Microsoft offer you a gift, start looking for the patent encumbrances
>> and subtle incompatiblities.
>
> I agree.
>
> I wouldn't like to taint my linux system with software such as
> silverlight and mono. In addition, the mono implementation will always
> lag far behind the microsoft one.
Also I agree; The only major proprietary & closed-source piece of sw on
my machines is Java.....
Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.
(P.s. no replies expected  ) |
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:35 am
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dott.Piergiorgio ha scritto:
> Otto Grimwald ha scritto:
>> Martin Read wrote:
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>>> If Microsoft offer you a gift, start looking for the patent encumbrances
>>> and subtle incompatiblities.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> I wouldn't like to taint my linux system with software such as
>> silverlight and mono. In addition, the mono implementation will always
>> lag far behind the microsoft one.
>
> Also I agree; The only major proprietary & closed-source piece of sw on
> my machines is Java.....
>
> Best regards from Italy,
> Dott. Piergiorgio.
s/Java/Flash
Sorry for the mixing up in my brain...
Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio. |
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:43 am
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ChicagoDave wrote:
> In any case, using C# via the .NET Framework and Mono is a cost-
> efficient methodology. Looking for cross-platform C++ developers to
> work on back-ended contracts for text games would simply be
> impossible.
Will the source of this be available? (Or is it already?) I don't mean
an Open Source license, just the source under whatever license so
"someone" can port it. |
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:49 pm
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Victor Gijsbers wrote:
> "Moonlight was compiled with 1.0 support only.
> This page requires 2.0 support."
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> (Great error message, Novell. What about telling me the 2.0 version of
> _WHAT_ you need?)
Web 2.0, obviously!
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:49 pm
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ChicagoDave <david.cornelson.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 19, 10:43 am, Martin Read <mpr....TakeThisOut@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>wrote:
[snip]
>> If Microsoft offer you a gift, start looking for the patent encumbrances
>> and subtle incompatiblities.
>
>I would have agreed a few years ago. It seems nowadays MS is bending
>over backwards to please everyone that will listen to them, which to
>their horror is a gradually smaller audience.
They have earned it.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
I have preferences.
You have biases.
He/She has prejudices. |
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:15 pm
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In article <3vv7l4lishc6n7frtv2p7hoej4jig5fsmf RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
Gene Wirchenko <genew RemoveThis @ocis.net.NOTTHIS> wrote:
>ChicagoDave <david.cornelson RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Dec 19, 10:43 am, Martin Read <mpr... RemoveThis @chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>>wrote:
>[snip]
>>> If Microsoft offer you a gift, start looking for the patent encumbrances
>>> and subtle incompatiblities.
>>I would have agreed a few years ago. It seems nowadays MS is bending
>>over backwards to please everyone that will listen to them, which to
>>their horror is a gradually smaller audience.
> They have earned it.
At the risk of inappropriately invoking Mr. Makane, they will only have
earned it when they are bending over forwards.
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:15 pm
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adam.DeleteThis@fileserver.fsf.net (Adam Thornton) wrote:
>In article <3vv7l4lishc6n7frtv2p7hoej4jig5fsmf.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
>Gene Wirchenko <genew.DeleteThis@ocis.net.NOTTHIS> wrote:
>>ChicagoDave <david.cornelson.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Dec 19, 10:43 am, Martin Read <mpr....DeleteThis@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>> If Microsoft offer you a gift, start looking for the patent encumbrances
>>>> and subtle incompatiblities.
>>>I would have agreed a few years ago. It seems nowadays MS is bending
>>>over backwards to please everyone that will listen to them, which to
>>>their horror is a gradually smaller audience.
>> They have earned it.
>
>At the risk of inappropriately invoking Mr. Makane, they will only have
>earned it when they are bending over forwards.
We may be using different definitions of "it".
Happy holidays to you and Aimee ". . . and your little dog, too!"
(not so little and, IIRC, you have two). Hmm, I will just edit that
out and say "and family (human and critter)".
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
I have preferences.
You have biases.
He/She has prejudices. |
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:32 pm
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Adam Thornton wrote:
> In article <3vv7l4lishc6n7frtv2p7hoej4jig5fsmf RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
> Gene Wirchenko <genew RemoveThis @ocis.net.NOTTHIS> wrote:
>> ChicagoDave <david.cornelson RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Dec 19, 10:43 am, Martin Read <mpr... RemoveThis @chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>>> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>> If Microsoft offer you a gift, start looking for the patent encumbrances
>>>> and subtle incompatiblities.
>>> I would have agreed a few years ago. It seems nowadays MS is bending
>>> over backwards to please everyone that will listen to them, which to
>>> their horror is a gradually smaller audience.
>> They have earned it.
>
> At the risk of inappropriately invoking Mr. Makane, they will only have
> earned it when they are bending over forwards.
Don't say such things, it's Christmas. |
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Textfyre does not present Eric Eve's Nightfall to Mac Power PC [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Dec 31, 6:05 pm, George <not.r... DeleteThis @email.invalid> wrote:
> We are talking TEXT here right? I'm missing out on TEXT?
Of course not. If all you care about is TEXT, then you can download
the gamefile from the IF archive and play it on your own interpreter. |
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:05 pm
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:35 pm
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On Dec 31 2008, 5:05 pm, George <not.r....TakeThisOut@email.invalid> wrote:
> As a Mac Power PC user (not Intel), but still using OS 10.4, I am
> limited to Siverlight version 1. From other posts I understand that I
> need version 2. Even though I use Firefox for browsing my choice of OS
> limits me. Updates, forget it. I've been down that road before and I
> don't want to start down another.
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> We are talking TEXT here right? I'm missing out on TEXT?
I've complained to MS about this and tried to get an answer on whether
PowerPC Mac support was coming and all I got was dead air. But again,
you should view this as Textfyre's Rev1 platform and we will do better
at cross-platform delivery as time passes. We could release our games
in a WinForms terp which may work on everything via Mono. This depends
on whether there's any demand for it.
David C. |
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