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Since: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 730
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:51 am
Post subject: Please! PLEASE Stop PIRACY in this group! Archived from groups: comp>sys>ibm>pc>games>action (more info?)
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I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
get up and write this...
Look at what this group has lately become
Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
Its a total shame
So please! please stop it! stop it!
Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
For god sake I'm begging...
I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
PS: Going back to bed... |
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Since: Nov 15, 2004 Posts: 2834
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:01 am
Post subject: Re: Please! PLEASE Stop PIRACY in this group! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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pc games wrote:
> I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
> get up and write this...
> Look at what this group has lately become
> Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
> Its a total shame
> So please! please stop it! stop it!
> Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
> For god sake I'm begging...
>
> I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
>
> PS: Going back to bed...
>
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1472796
Take care... it's not a cure for everything |
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Since: Oct 04, 2006 Posts: 561
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:01 am
Post subject: Re: Please! PLEASE Stop PIRACY in this group! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:01:13 +0000, Shawk <shawk DeleteThis @clara.co.uk.3guesses>
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>pc games wrote:
>> I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
>> get up and write this...
>> Look at what this group has lately become
>> Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
>> Its a total shame
>> So please! please stop it! stop it!
>> Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
>> For god sake I'm begging...
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>> I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
>>
>> PS: Going back to bed...
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>http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1472796
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>Take care... it's not a cure for everything
ROTFL!
You're *so* not going to heaven Mr Shawk.
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Since: Jul 03, 2007 Posts: 20
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:41 am
Post subject: Re: Please! PLEASE Stop PIRACY in this group! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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pc games wrote:
> I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
> get up and write this...
> Look at what this group has lately become
> Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
> Its a total shame
> So please! please stop it! stop it!
> Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
> For god sake I'm begging...
>
> I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
>
> PS: Going back to bed...
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How is stealing a GAME ever justified? |
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Since: Jul 03, 2007 Posts: 20
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:43 am
Post subject: Re: Please! PLEASE Stop PIRACY in this group! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Shawk wrote:
> pc games wrote:
>> I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
>> get up and write this...
>> Look at what this group has lately become
>> Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
>> Its a total shame
>> So please! please stop it! stop it!
>> Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
>> For god sake I'm begging...
>>
>> I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
>>
>> PS: Going back to bed...
>>
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> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1472796
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> Take care... it's not a cure for everything
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Very funny. Piracy still = theft. |
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Since: Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 205
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Please! PLEASE Stop PIRACY in this group! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"pc games" wrote
> I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
> get up and write this...
> Look at what this group has lately become
> Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
> Its a total shame
> So please! please stop it! stop it!
> Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
> For god sake I'm begging...
> I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
> PS: Going back to bed...
Before you arrived I don't remember a single 'regular' promoting Piracy
(either seriously or tongue-in-cheek).
You are wholly responsible for the trend.
In fact there are some here who believe that this is your hidden agenda. |
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Since: Nov 15, 2004 Posts: 2834
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Please! PLEASE Stop PIRACY in this group! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Chris B. wrote:
> Shawk wrote:
>> pc games wrote:
>>> I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
>>> get up and write this...
>>> Look at what this group has lately become
>>> Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
>>> Its a total shame
>>> So please! please stop it! stop it!
>>> Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
>>> For god sake I'm begging...
>>>
>>> I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
>>>
>>> PS: Going back to bed...
>>>
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>> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1472796
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>> Take care... it's not a cure for everything
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> Very funny. Piracy still = theft.
Unfortunately I think this months 'Stating the Obvious Award' has
already gone to PC Games for his comment 'I really see FEAR as mainly a
shooter' in the 'Want to see talk about FEAR extraction point, please'
thread.
Please try another submission next month. |
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Since: Oct 24, 2006 Posts: 327
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:01 am
Post subject: Re: Please! PLEASE Stop PIRACY in this group! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Quoth The Raven; pc games <pcgamer23708 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> in
<1163238693.279177.98330 RemoveThis @m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
> I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
> get up and write this...
> Look at what this group has lately become
> Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
> Its a total shame
> So please! please stop it! stop it!
> Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
> For god sake I'm begging...
>
> I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
>
> PS: Going back to bed...
i hope your brain boils
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Since: Oct 24, 2006 Posts: 327
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:10 am
Post subject: Re: Please! PLEASE Stop PIRACY in this group! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Quoth The Raven; pc games <pcgamer23708 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> in
<1163238693.279177.98330 RemoveThis @m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
> I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
> get up and write this...
> Look at what this group has lately become
> Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
> Its a total shame
> So please! please stop it! stop it!
> Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
> For god sake I'm begging...
>
> I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
>
> PS: Going back to bed...
any would be genuine software-pirate would have downloaded the game as
they cant afford it legitimately. these ppl would never have actually
purchased the game at any point and the game-company would never have
seen them as a lost customer, as those ppl wouldn't spend the money
anyway. downloading a game if you cant afford it does not hurt the
industry.
the real pirates are the ones who masse produce counterfeit copies of
the game and sell them at markets, they are the ones who you should
target.
so take your germ infested head out of this group and head down to the
flea-markets and harass the true pirates.
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Since: Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 205
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:23 am
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"Highlandish" wrote
> any would be genuine software-pirate would have downloaded the game as
> they cant afford it legitimately.
[snipped - essay entitled 'Why piracy is not really stealing']
I'm suprised this has not been discussed before. |
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Since: Dec 25, 2006 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:39 am
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On 11 Nov 2006 01:51:33 -0800, pc games wrote:
> I'm sick and in bed with a cold but this group had to make me
> get up and write this...
> Look at what this group has lately become
> Piracy all around, and piracy growing day by day
> Its a total shame
> So please! please stop it! stop it!
> Don't tolerate piracy in this group! Please don't! PLEASE!
> For god sake I'm begging...
>
> I'm already sick but reading this group makes me even sicker.
>
> PS: Going back to bed...
I hope its nothing terminal |
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Since: Oct 24, 2006 Posts: 327
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:16 pm
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Quoth The Raven; Vince <vmelia.TakeThisOut@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> in
<zKB5h.194105$3D1.138447@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
> "Highlandish" wrote
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>> any would be genuine software-pirate would have downloaded the game
>> as they cant afford it legitimately.
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> [snipped - essay entitled 'Why piracy is not really stealing']
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> I'm suprised this has not been discussed before.
it has, I thought I was going to be told off for bringing it up again.
but it is true. those who download media normally do because they
wouldn't have bought it anyway if they were too poor, so regardless, the
media owners wouldn't miss a penny.
it's the counterfeiters and those who buy media from them that hurt the
industry.
and I am not saying this just to excuse myself, nor convince myself that
the occasional download is ok. it is ok because if I like it enough to
put on my shelf with my hundreds of books and purchased DVD's then I
will buy it.
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Since: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 938
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:16 pm
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Highlandish wrote:
> Quoth The Raven; Vince <vmelia.TakeThisOut@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> in
> <zKB5h.194105$3D1.138447@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
>> "Highlandish" wrote
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>>> any would be genuine software-pirate would have downloaded the game
>>> as they cant afford it legitimately.
>> [snipped - essay entitled 'Why piracy is not really stealing']
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>> I'm suprised this has not been discussed before.
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> it has, I thought I was going to be told off for bringing it up again.
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> but it is true. those who download media normally do because they
> wouldn't have bought it anyway if they were too poor, so regardless, the
> media owners wouldn't miss a penny.
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That's quite a sweeping statement there. Must of the people I know who
download software do it because they can not because they can't afford
it. Obviously this doesn't mean that most people necessarily do this but
I can certainly say some of it equates to lost sales.
> it's the counterfeiters and those who buy media from them that hurt the
> industry.
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Agreed that that doesn't mean that downloading software should just be
ignored.
> and I am not saying this just to excuse myself, nor convince myself that
> the occasional download is ok. it is ok because if I like it enough to
> put on my shelf with my hundreds of books and purchased DVD's then I
> will buy it.
>
They things I download are TV shows as I don't see the difference
between that and just recording them. I also use it to download versions
of films I have on video but that's it. |
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Since: Dec 25, 2006 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:16 pm
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:57:07 GMT, JAB wrote:
> Highlandish wrote:
>> Quoth The Raven; Vince <vmelia.TakeThisOut@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> in
>> <zKB5h.194105$3D1.138447@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> "Highlandish" wrote
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>>>> any would be genuine software-pirate would have downloaded the game
>>>> as they cant afford it legitimately.
>>> [snipped - essay entitled 'Why piracy is not really stealing']
>>>
>>> I'm suprised this has not been discussed before.
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>> it has, I thought I was going to be told off for bringing it up again.
>>
>> but it is true. those who download media normally do because they
>> wouldn't have bought it anyway if they were too poor, so regardless, the
>> media owners wouldn't miss a penny.
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> That's quite a sweeping statement there. Must of the people I know who
> download software do it because they can not because they can't afford
> it. Obviously this doesn't mean that most people necessarily do this but
> I can certainly say some of it equates to lost sales.
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>> it's the counterfeiters and those who buy media from them that hurt the
>> industry.
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>
> Agreed that that doesn't mean that downloading software should just be
> ignored.
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Perhaps software houses should take note and introduce a sliding scale
system to eliminate piracy forever  |
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Since: Oct 04, 2006 Posts: 561
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:16 pm
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:57:07 GMT, JAB <nochance RemoveThis @nohope.com> wrote:
> Must of the people I know who
>download software do it because they can not because they can't afford
>it. Obviously this doesn't mean that most people necessarily do this but
>I can certainly say some of it equates to lost sales.
This is an interesting observation and in my opinion, a very accurate
one too. It's very tempting to download something that interests you
if you have broadband and the item is readily available.
I believe that there is a significant loss of revenue to software
companies and developers due to the increasing availability of "fat
pipes" and the seemingly untouchable torrent sites that flaunt their
wares.
What is also interesting is that some people will condemn others for
pirating games, yet they run an illegal copy of Windows and quite
probably an illegal Anti-Virus program too. It seems that if a company
is big enough then some people don't mind "stealing" from them as they
can "afford it".
The starter of this thread quite probably falls into the above
category. I'm willing to bet that given his admitted history of piracy
and hatred of MS and product activation, that he runs a pirated copy
of Windows XP Professional.
>They things I download are TV shows as I don't see the difference
>between that and just recording them. I also use it to download versions
>of films I have on video but that's it.
Gosh, I have a monster collection of downloaded TV programs. I don't
even know whether it's legal to do so. I mostly collect natural
history programs, especially the older Wildlife programs from years
gone by.
The problem is, that the sites that carry these things nearly always
carry other things too. It's very tempting indeed. But, I have what I
need so I refrain.
I think software is a unique thing though. Most people that download
stuff wouldn't dream of stealing anything with a physical form. I bet
the majority of people that download software don't even think of it
as being terribly wrong.
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