Space Marines and Witch hunters

It says in the Codex at page 27: "Allied Space Marines may not be used if
any Adepta Sororitas units are present"... Which inits are these ?


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>> Can someone tell me how i can mix Witch Hunters into a space marine army
>> ? I already found how to mix space marines in a WH armie (on the GW
>> site), but i can nowhere find how to mix WH into a space marine army.
>
> The method is described in the Witch hunters Codex, page 25. Essentially
> it says you can include allied Witch Hunters units in any Marine, Imperial
> Guard, or Daemon Hunters army. You get up to 1 HQ, Elite or Fast choice,
> and up to 2 Troops. No heavies.
>
> Tim
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Ger wrote on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:41:14 +0100:

> It says in the Codex at page 27: "Allied Space Marines may not be used if
> any Adepta Sororitas units are present"... Which inits are these ?

That's if you have a parent WH army - you can't take SoB and Marines in the
same army. You can however take SoB units in a Marine parent army.

Dan

In article <440f093f$0$17838$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl>, Ger,
p.g.duyndam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> It says in the Codex at page 27: "Allied Space Marines may not be used if
> any Adepta Sororitas units are present"... Which inits are these ?
>
Adeptus Sororitas are units from the 'Sisters of Battle' Codex.
They're saying you can't mix Marines, Sisters of Battle, and Witch
Hunters all in the same single army list / force organization chart.
This is doubtless due to the fact that the Sisters of Battle and Marines
distrust each other.

Also so you know - on rec.games.miniatures.warhammer it's standard form
to type or post your reply text *UNDER* the text you're replying to (as
I've done here - my text is under your quoted text above). It makes it
so that people who didn't get all the posts in a thread can still read
the individual posts from top to bottom and understand what is being
discussed.

Hope that helps and welcome to RGMW.

Myrmidon

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"Ger" <p.g.duyndam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl> wrote in message
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> It says in the Codex at page 27: "Allied Space Marines may not be used if
> any Adepta Sororitas units are present"... Which inits are these ?
>
>
> "Helicon_One" <shiny*blue*thing@yahoo.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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>> "Ger Duyndam" <etzwane.gm.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl> wrote in message
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>>
>>> Can someone tell me how i can mix Witch Hunters into a space marine army
>>> ? I already found how to mix space marines in a WH armie (on the GW
>>> site), but i can nowhere find how to mix WH into a space marine army.
>>
>> The method is described in the Witch hunters Codex, page 25. Essentially
>> it says you can include allied Witch Hunters units in any Marine,
>> Imperial Guard, or Daemon Hunters army. You get up to 1 HQ, Elite or Fast
>> choice, and up to 2 Troops. No heavies.
>>
>> Tim
>> --
>> ----------------
>> I can see why they've outlawed firearms in the UK. People like you
>> wouldn't have any toes left.
>> Myrmidon - Usenet out-take
>>
>> If you want to reply by email, replace the asterisks with underscores.

Adepta Soroitas = Sisters of Battle
So, no units consisting of or exclusive to them (SoB squad, Seraphim,
Exorcist, etc.)

In a SM army, you can have SoB as allies, but in a WH army SM can be taken
as allies only if SoB are not part of the WH force.

Confused yet?

drgrbek

"Spack" <news.TakeThisOut@worldofspack.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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> Ger wrote on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:41:14 +0100:
>
>> It says in the Codex at page 27: "Allied Space Marines may not be used if
>> any Adepta Sororitas units are present"... Which inits are these ?
>
> That's if you have a parent WH army - you can't take SoB and Marines in
> the same army. You can however take SoB units in a Marine parent army.
>
> Dan
>
TY all very much for you answers. And i am very sorry for the topposting....

So.... i can have lots of Space Marines in a WH army, as long as there are
no Sisters in it ...

One final question... The Cannones can lead a force of Celestines.... i
can't find them anywhere ? Enlighten me pls...

Thanks in advance

In article <440f1623$0$17853$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl>, Ger,
p.g.duyndam.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> "Spack" <news.RemoveThis@worldofspack.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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> > Ger wrote on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:41:14 +0100:
> >
> >> It says in the Codex at page 27: "Allied Space Marines may not be used if
> >> any Adepta Sororitas units are present"... Which inits are these ?
> >
> > That's if you have a parent WH army - you can't take SoB and Marines in
> > the same army. You can however take SoB units in a Marine parent army.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> TY all very much for you answers. And i am very sorry for the topposting....
>
Thank you for understanding. Everyone's 'new' here at first, so
not knowing about the top posting isn't a big deal.

> So.... i can have lots of Space Marines in a WH army, as long as there are
> no Sisters in it ...
>
Yeah, which makes sense from a 'fluff' (background story)
standpoint as the Marines and Sisters of Battle distrust each other, but
is kind of silly considering that a pure Marine or Sisters army could
potentially include allied units from the other (distrusted) army. Go
figure.

> One final question... The Cannones can lead a force of Celestines.... i
> can't find them anywhere ? Enlighten me pls...

All the detailed info about them (not included in Codex WH) is in
the Sisters of Battle codex. If you can't find one near where you live,
you can always try Ebay as I routinely see them sell for low prices
there. People here may well also be able to recommend stores in your
area or online that sell GW stuff at a discount too.

Myrmidon

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Myrmidon <ImNot.TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:
> In article <440f1623$0$17853$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl>, Ger,
> p.g.duyndam.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl Varfed out the following in Timo speak...

> > One final question... The Cannones can lead a force of Celestines.... i
> > can't find them anywhere ? Enlighten me pls...

> All the detailed info about them (not included in Codex WH) is in
> the Sisters of Battle codex. If you can't find one near where you live,

I had thought that Codex WH replaced the Sisters of Battle Codex, is this
not the case? Sounds like I might need to pick up a copy the next time I
see it.

Zane

In article <dun7mf0ao8.TakeThisOut@enews3.newsguy.com>, healyzh.TakeThisOut@aracnet.com,
healyzh.TakeThisOut@aracnet.com Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> Myrmidon <ImNot.TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:
> > In article <440f1623$0$17853$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl>, Ger,
> > p.g.duyndam.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
>
> > > One final question... The Cannones can lead a force of Celestines.... i
> > > can't find them anywhere ? Enlighten me pls...
>
> > All the detailed info about them (not included in Codex WH) is in
> > the Sisters of Battle codex. If you can't find one near where you live,
>
> I had thought that Codex WH replaced the Sisters of Battle Codex, is this
> not the case? Sounds like I might need to pick up a copy the next time I
> see it.

I don't think WH replaced the SOB codex. AFAIK they're two
seperate animals. The WH codex covers a part of the Inquisition (which
utilizes SOB forces among others) where as the SOB codex deals entirely
with fielding SOB forces. Unless the WH codex has all the SOB units and
covers things like 'Faith Points' that the SOB use, then I'd say that
the WH has not replaced the SOB codex.

Myrmidon

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> In article <dun7mf0ao8.DeleteThis@enews3.newsguy.com>, healyzh.DeleteThis@aracnet.com,
> healyzh.DeleteThis@aracnet.com Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
>> Myrmidon <ImNot.DeleteThis@home.com> wrote:
>> > In article <440f1623$0$17853$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl>, Ger,
>> > p.g.duyndam.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
>>
>> > > One final question... The Cannones can lead a force of Celestines....
>> > > i
>> > > can't find them anywhere ? Enlighten me pls...
>>
>> > All the detailed info about them (not included in Codex WH) is
>> > in
>> > the Sisters of Battle codex. If you can't find one near where you
>> > live,
>>
>> I had thought that Codex WH replaced the Sisters of Battle Codex, is this
>> not the case? Sounds like I might need to pick up a copy the next time I
>> see it.
>
> I don't think WH replaced the SOB codex. AFAIK they're two
> seperate animals. The WH codex covers a part of the Inquisition (which
> utilizes SOB forces among others) where as the SOB codex deals entirely
> with fielding SOB forces. Unless the WH codex has all the SOB units and
> covers things like 'Faith Points' that the SOB use, then I'd say that
> the WH has not replaced the SOB codex.

Yes, the WH codex contains all of that info. Much like the GK are the
military arm of the
DH, the SoB are now included in the WH codex as the same.
But the SoB codex is still a great reference for fluff.

drgrbek

"Myrmidon" <ImNot DeleteThis @home.com> wrote in message
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>
> I don't think WH replaced the SOB codex. AFAIK they're two
> seperate animals. The WH codex covers a part of the Inquisition (which
> utilizes SOB forces among others) where as the SOB codex deals entirely
> with fielding SOB forces. Unless the WH codex has all the SOB units and
> covers things like 'Faith Points' that the SOB use, then I'd say that
> the WH has not replaced the SOB codex.

I don't have either, but I thought that C:SoB had been fully replaced by
C:WH. The SoB book is really only useful for the extra fluff it contains
now.

Cheers, Martyn

"Ger" <p.g.duyndam RemoveThis @hccnet.nl> wrote in message
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>> Ger wrote on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:41:14 +0100:
>>
>>> It says in the Codex at page 27: "Allied Space Marines may not be used
>>> if any Adepta Sororitas units are present"... Which inits are these ?
>>
>> That's if you have a parent WH army - you can't take SoB and Marines in
>> the same army. You can however take SoB units in a Marine parent army.
>>
>> Dan
>>
> TY all very much for you answers. And i am very sorry for the
> topposting....
>
> So.... i can have lots of Space Marines in a WH army, as long as there are
> no Sisters in it ...
>
> One final question... The Cannones can lead a force of Celestines.... i
> can't find them anywhere ? Enlighten me pls...

Look under the Elites section in the WH codex, you'll find them there

Dan

M Roberts <unknown.RemoveThis@thisaddress.com> wrote:
> I don't have either, but I thought that C:SoB had been fully replaced by
> C:WH. The SoB book is really only useful for the extra fluff it contains
> now.

OK, that had been my understanding. In any case, I'd like to start slowly
picking up the 2nd Ed. Codex books that I don't have when I can find them
locally cheap enough, as I've got most of the 1st, 3rd, and 4th Ed. books.

Even if they're no longer usable, they can provide ideas for colour schemes,
and background information.

Zane

"Myrmidon" <ImNot RemoveThis @home.com> wrote in message
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> I don't think WH replaced the SOB codex. AFAIK they're two
> seperate animals. The WH codex covers a part of the Inquisition (which
> utilizes SOB forces among others) where as the SOB codex deals entirely
> with fielding SOB forces. Unless the WH codex has all the SOB units and
> covers things like 'Faith Points' that the SOB use, then I'd say that
> the WH has not replaced the SOB codex.

*Throws bucket of cold water over Myr*

Umm, the only "SoB Codex" is from 2nd Ed, so its been very much replaced,
first by the C:CA list, then the WH codex.

Tim
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