In alt.games.video.sony-playstation3 NV55 <nvidianv55 RemoveThis @mail.com> wrote:
>
> Will Sony Ready the PS4 for Super Hi-Vision?
>
> by Matthew on December 10, 2008
>
> Super Hi-Vision is a technology that was first introduced in 2003. It
> has various names such as UHDTV (ultra high definition television) and
> makes 1080p (Full HD) look small. SHV runs at a resolution of 7680 x
> 4320 pixels which is the equivalent of 16 1080p screens stitched
> together. According to a report in September from the BBC they say
> that SHV will be coming to the home around 2015 although many changes
> can happen in 7 years from now. What they are aiming to do is step up
> another level to what ever that might be. All we do know is that
> resolutions will be a lot higher then they are now to give you an even
> finer image. It?s debatable about how much you will actually notice on
> screen sizes that are commonly seen in the home.
Matthew is an idiot if he thinks Sony is even considering this...
Let's see... Screens capable of 720p or better still make up - at best -
around 30% of the total TVs in the US market, and it's even lower
elsewhere.
Even the best graphics processors for the PC are topping out
at just north of 1080p resolutions - and now you want to seriously do a
game that's going to push ~16x the pixels?
Not to mention the fact that even the creators of SHV admit that it'll
probably never make it into a consumer product - there's no real use for
it. Even on a 100" screen, you aren't going to see any real improvement
over 1080p which makes SHV a waste of money.
Finally, what exactly does Matthew think is going to be available in SHV
by then? It's going to be years before the TV studios finish upgrading to
HD - and that's only going to be 720p for the most part. It'll be
decades before they go 1080p. Blu-ray is 1080p and even that isn't
offering enough of an improvement to get folks to jump on board. Video
games are mainly in 720p this generation, with the next generation
expected to be largely 1080p. What does Matthew think Sony is going to
do? Shove 16 Cell processors into the PS4 for the low-low-price of $4000
with an insane $2000 loss on each unit - and I'm being generous here!
> Although it appears that Sony will be introducing the PS4 around 2012
> (3 years earlier then SHV), will Sony be preparing the PS4 to handle
> SHV services? Due to the resolutions of the current SHV tests a
> bandwidth of 180?600 Mbit/s was needed to display test images in
> Tokyo. Uncompressed, a 20 minute video would require 3.5Tb of storage.
> As you can see, Super Hi-Vision will take a lot of resources which are
> not cheaply available just yet. In 4 years things will be different
> though and massive amount of data will be handled every second.
Oh sure, in 4 years we'll go from 25GB blu-ray discs to a new removable
media capable of storing 25TB. No problem. And all those folks who
bought blu-ray already? Bah. Piss on them! Who needs 'em? The true
high end fans will always be willing to throw away thousands of dollars on
each new technology immediatly when it's released. After all, it's only
money!
> My personal opinion is that Sony will stick to the regular 1080p
> format for the PS4 as Super Hi-Vision is probably a bit of overkill
> for the home and won?t be cheaply available for maybe 10 years after
> the PS4?s launch.
>
> http://www.ps4talk.com/will-sony-ready-the-ps4-for-super-hi-vision-12105110/
>
10 years from now and we'll still be making the transition to 1080p. I
don't think we'll see another transition for the next 20 years, minimum.
> _________________________________________________________________________________
>
> If PlayStation4 renders realtime graphics in native 7680 x 4320p it
> will take one HELL of a graphics processor to do that. Thankfully,
> Nvidia is probably up to the challenge. Their current multi GPU /
> graphics card solutions (SLI) for PCs allow resolutions well beyond
> 1080p, Although not yet upto 4320p. It shouldn't be a problem by
> 2015 though.
They're still no where near 7680x4320 though. In today's technology you'd
need roughly 6 to 8 GPUs and over ONE TB of VRAM. Yeah, like that'll be
affordable even in 10 years time.
Don't forget, console hardware is usually finalized about 2 years before the
console is released. So if Sony is seriously going to release the PS4 in
2012, that means it's going to be built with 2010 technology.
This so-called journalist is just trying to meet his quota with this
utterly useless article. I could have saved the publication a bunch of
space by rewriting the "article" thusly:
"Is Sony considering SHV for the PS4?"
No.
End of article.
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