Reliabilty problems?

FatHippy wrote:
> In message <4481f480$0$23362$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Northern Deity
> <?@?.?.invalid> writes
>> Bikini Whacks wrote
>>
>>> In article <4481d1d6$0$1221$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, "Northern
>>> Deity" <> says...
>>> > FatHippy wrote
>>> >
>>> > > In message <hLTfg.74558$8W1.17695@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>>> > > Hoodoo <tobyandmaz.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>>> > > > Hi all,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I'm thinking about holding out for a little while longer before
>>> > > > buying a 360 because of the worrying
>>> > > > reliability stories above.I don't remember this sort of thing
>>> > > > when the original Xbox came out.
>>> > > > Just out of interest, is anybody else hanging on for a bit
>>> > > > before getting a 360?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > Yes, I intend to wait until they switch over to the reduced die
>>> > > size (later this year or perhaps early next year) so that I may
>>> > > reap the rewards of cooler running and more reliable 360's, that
>>> > > will also very likely be cheaper in price by that time, probably
>>> > > have bigger hard disks, and with games available at a price I am
>>> > > actually prepared to pay.
>>> >
>>> > I guess you never owned a PS2 then due to drive reliablilty
>>> > problems, or a DS due to dead pixel.
>>> >
>>> > The world according to Fat hippocrite, everything is dodgy unless I
>>> > can fanboy over it, TEH ROXXOR!
>>> >
>>> I think you're confusing him with that Grubbins creature.
>>
>> Naaah, you can tell all the charter waving gimps alike due to
>> themselves being more important than anything else.
>
> Good England !
>
> You're in the right place though. There are plenty of other illiterate
> cretins here for you to play with.
>
> Bless.

stand up dekay you are wanted.

lol.

Bikini Whacks wrote:
> In article <JG$H1UF00ehEFwCP@fathippy.net>, {$spamtrap$}@fathippy.net
> says...
>> In message <4481f480$0$23362$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Northern Deity
>> <?@?.?.invalid> writes
>>> Bikini Whacks wrote
>>>
>>>> In article <4481d1d6$0$1221$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, "Northern
>>>> Deity" <> says...
>>>>> FatHippy wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> In message <hLTfg.74558$8W1.17695@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>>>>>> Hoodoo <tobyandmaz RemoveThis @blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm thinking about holding out for a little while longer before
>>>>>>> buying a 360 because of the worrying
>>>>>>> reliability stories above.I don't remember this sort of thing
>>>>>>> when the original Xbox came out.
>>>>>>> Just out of interest, is anybody else hanging on for a bit
>>>>>>> before getting a 360?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I intend to wait until they switch over to the reduced die
>>>>>> size (later this year or perhaps early next year) so that I may
>>>>>> reap the rewards of cooler running and more reliable 360's, that
>>>>>> will also very likely be cheaper in price by that time, probably
>>>>>> have bigger hard disks, and with games available at a price I am
>>>>>> actually prepared to pay.
>>>>> I guess you never owned a PS2 then due to drive reliablilty
>>>>> problems, or a DS due to dead pixel.
>>>>>
>>>>> The world according to Fat hippocrite, everything is dodgy unless I
>>>>> can fanboy over it, TEH ROXXOR!
>>>>>
>>>> I think you're confusing him with that Grubbins creature.
>>> Naaah, you can tell all the charter waving gimps alike due to
>>> themselves being more important than anything else.
>> Good England !
>>
>> You're in the right place though. There are plenty of other illiterate
>> cretins here for you to play with.
>>
>> Bless.
>>
> I wouldn't say plenty. I can only think of three.
>
> Anyway, Have you and Deity been having words elsewhere? He doesn't seem
> to like you is all.

fathippy
dekay
choobs.

In article <c%mhg.867$eK2.318@fe04.buzzardnews.com>,
scoopex.RemoveThis@scoopex.co.uk says...
> Bikini Whacks wrote:
> > In article <JG$H1UF00ehEFwCP@fathippy.net>, {$spamtrap$}@fathippy.net
> > says...
> >> In message <4481f480$0$23362$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Northern Deity
> >> <?@?.?.invalid> writes
> >>> Bikini Whacks wrote
> >>>
> >>>> In article <4481d1d6$0$1221$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, "Northern
> >>>> Deity" <> says...
> >>>>> FatHippy wrote
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In message <hLTfg.74558$8W1.17695@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> >>>>>> Hoodoo <tobyandmaz.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm thinking about holding out for a little while longer before
> >>>>>>> buying a 360 because of the worrying
> >>>>>>> reliability stories above.I don't remember this sort of thing
> >>>>>>> when the original Xbox came out.
> >>>>>>> Just out of interest, is anybody else hanging on for a bit
> >>>>>>> before getting a 360?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, I intend to wait until they switch over to the reduced die
> >>>>>> size (later this year or perhaps early next year) so that I may
> >>>>>> reap the rewards of cooler running and more reliable 360's, that
> >>>>>> will also very likely be cheaper in price by that time, probably
> >>>>>> have bigger hard disks, and with games available at a price I am
> >>>>>> actually prepared to pay.
> >>>>> I guess you never owned a PS2 then due to drive reliablilty
> >>>>> problems, or a DS due to dead pixel.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The world according to Fat hippocrite, everything is dodgy unless I
> >>>>> can fanboy over it, TEH ROXXOR!
> >>>>>
> >>>> I think you're confusing him with that Grubbins creature.
> >>> Naaah, you can tell all the charter waving gimps alike due to
> >>> themselves being more important than anything else.
> >> Good England !
> >>
> >> You're in the right place though. There are plenty of other illiterate
> >> cretins here for you to play with.
> >>
> >> Bless.
> >>
> > I wouldn't say plenty. I can only think of three.
> >
> > Anyway, Have you and Deity been having words elsewhere? He doesn't seem
> > to like you is all.
>
> fathippy
> dekay
> choobs.
>
>
>
Well, deffo the last two.

I'm forming a soft-spot for the Hippo.

FatHippy wrote:

> I'd be surprised if we do not see a price drop on the 360 around PS3
> launch time, as MS attempt to make Sony's launch as difficult for them
> as possible.
>

More difficult than they have already made it for themselves post E3? I
honestly don't think MS need to do a damn thing. The 360 is
competitively priced if the proposed prices are anything to go by.
Developers are stating that there aint a lot of difference between the
two consoles so why should MS reduce to price.

One year on the best you can hope for is improved parts and less heat /
noise. (as an aside we'll never see improved performance as this would
be a very bad move essentially making public confidence in the product
zero).

> It will result in the 360 running cooler and be less likely to suffer
> the heat related failures that have been reported both here and all over
> the press/media.
>

Who says they are heat related? I don't think anyone much less MS have
actually said this! It's all speculation. If MS came out today and said
"there is a problem with 360's due to overheating" Sony would be
jumping for glee.

> To wish to wait for a more reliable version to appear seems a perfectly
> valid enough reason to me......As I am sure those people who had an
> original v1.0 Xbox whose Thompson DVD drives packed in, or those who set
> the house on fire and/or blew up their XBox power supplies through dodgy
> solder connections, would happily testify. I can also live without the
> inconvenience of having to pack the thing up and return it to the shop
> or send it off for repair, if I think that by waiting for a wee shile
> yet for a more reliable model, would reduce the likelihood of me having
> to do this.
>

That's a fair point. However it never helped me with my PS2, I had 3 of
the buggers in all.

In message <MPG.1eefffe9107d322989de8 DeleteThis @news.individual.net>, Bikini
Whacks <throwoldvegetables DeleteThis @me.please> writes
>In article <JG$H1UF00ehEFwCP@fathippy.net>, {$spamtrap$}@fathippy.net
>says...
>> In message <4481f480$0$23362$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Northern Deity
>> <?@?.?.invalid> writes
>> >Bikini Whacks wrote
>> >
>> >> In article <4481d1d6$0$1221$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, "Northern
>> >> Deity" <> says...
>> >> > FatHippy wrote
>> >> >
>> >> > > In message <hLTfg.74558$8W1.17695@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>> >> > > Hoodoo <tobyandmaz DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>> >> > > > Hi all,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I'm thinking about holding out for a little while longer before
>> >> > > > buying a 360 because of the worrying
>> >> > > > reliability stories above.I don't remember this sort of thing
>> >> > > > when the original Xbox came out.
>> >> > > > Just out of interest, is anybody else hanging on for a bit
>> >> > > > before getting a 360?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > Yes, I intend to wait until they switch over to the reduced die
>> >> > > size (later this year or perhaps early next year) so that I may
>> >> > > reap the rewards of cooler running and more reliable 360's, that
>> >> > > will also very likely be cheaper in price by that time, probably
>> >> > > have bigger hard disks, and with games available at a price I am
>> >> > > actually prepared to pay.
>> >> >
>> >> > I guess you never owned a PS2 then due to drive reliablilty
>> >> > problems, or a DS due to dead pixel.
>> >> >
>> >> > The world according to Fat hippocrite, everything is dodgy unless I
>> >> > can fanboy over it, TEH ROXXOR!
>> >> >
>> >> I think you're confusing him with that Grubbins creature.
>> >
>> >Naaah, you can tell all the charter waving gimps alike due to
>> >themselves being more important than anything else.
>>
>> Good England !
>>
>> You're in the right place though. There are plenty of other illiterate
>> cretins here for you to play with.
>>
>> Bless.
>>
>I wouldn't say plenty. I can only think of three.
>
>Anyway, Have you and Deity been having words elsewhere? He doesn't seem
>to like you is all.

WHo knows. As far as I can tell, he's just another mindless cock, on a
seemingly endless list of mindless cocks.

He seems to have many things that ring his bell. Some of these things
seem to stem from some sort of mistaken belief that there are "cliques"
in operation on the group, just because some individuals try and provide
guidance to others in an attempt to avoid the groups turning into the
cesspit that this one has truned into.

However, that is just one of the things that he seems to get his arse in
his hand about. As far as I see it, he is not going to run short of
paranoid fantasies and delusional behaviour as a guiding force in his
life, in the forseeable future.
--
FatHippy
'Poking death in the face with a big stick and then running away'
(To reply by e-mail, please replace {$spamtrap$} with fathippy)
Name: Fats Town: Bauhaus

FatHippy wrote:
> In message <MPG.1eefffe9107d322989de8 RemoveThis @news.individual.net>, Bikini
> Whacks <throwoldvegetables RemoveThis @me.please> writes
>> In article <JG$H1UF00ehEFwCP@fathippy.net>, {$spamtrap$}@fathippy.net
>> says...
>>> In message <4481f480$0$23362$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Northern Deity
>>> <?@?.?.invalid> writes
>>> >Bikini Whacks wrote
>>> >
>>> >> In article <4481d1d6$0$1221$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, "Northern
>>> >> Deity" <> says...
>>> >> > FatHippy wrote
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > In message <hLTfg.74558$8W1.17695@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>>> >> > > Hoodoo <tobyandmaz RemoveThis @blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>>> >> > > > Hi all,
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > I'm thinking about holding out for a little while longer before
>>> >> > > > buying a 360 because of the worrying
>>> >> > > > reliability stories above.I don't remember this sort of thing
>>> >> > > > when the original Xbox came out.
>>> >> > > > Just out of interest, is anybody else hanging on for a bit
>>> >> > > > before getting a 360?
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > Yes, I intend to wait until they switch over to the reduced die
>>> >> > > size (later this year or perhaps early next year) so that I may
>>> >> > > reap the rewards of cooler running and more reliable 360's, that
>>> >> > > will also very likely be cheaper in price by that time, probably
>>> >> > > have bigger hard disks, and with games available at a price I am
>>> >> > > actually prepared to pay.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I guess you never owned a PS2 then due to drive reliablilty
>>> >> > problems, or a DS due to dead pixel.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The world according to Fat hippocrite, everything is dodgy unless I
>>> >> > can fanboy over it, TEH ROXXOR!
>>> >> >
>>> >> I think you're confusing him with that Grubbins creature.
>>> >
>>> >Naaah, you can tell all the charter waving gimps alike due to
>>> >themselves being more important than anything else.
>>>
>>> Good England !
>>>
>>> You're in the right place though. There are plenty of other illiterate
>>> cretins here for you to play with.
>>>
>>> Bless.
>>>
>> I wouldn't say plenty. I can only think of three.
>>
>> Anyway, Have you and Deity been having words elsewhere? He doesn't seem
>> to like you is all.
>
> WHo knows. As far as I can tell, he's just another mindless cock, on a
> seemingly endless list of mindless cocks.
>
> He seems to have many things that ring his bell. Some of these things
> seem to stem from some sort of mistaken belief that there are "cliques"
> in operation on the group, just because some individuals try and provide
> guidance to others in an attempt to avoid the groups turning into the
> cesspit that this one has truned into.
>
> However, that is just one of the things that he seems to get his arse in
> his hand about. As far as I see it, he is not going to run short of
> paranoid fantasies and delusional behaviour as a guiding force in his
> life, in the forseeable future.

but you are choobys best bum buddy fatcunt.

lol.

Hoodoo wrote:
> I'm thinking about holding out for a little while longer before buying a 360
> because of the worrying
> reliability stories above.I don't remember this sort of thing when the
> original Xbox came out.
> Just out of interest, is anybody else hanging on for a bit before getting a
> 360?

I don't see the point in waiting, the X360 isn't going to get a lot
more reliable, since it's really not that unreliable to begin with. I
think the actual figures are something around 3 percent defect rate.
I'm sure the actual rate is higher since some defects aren't reported
but the bottom line is you have a very good chance of not having any
problems as long as you don't move it from horizontal to vertical while
a game is running and keep it in a well ventilated location. If you're
worried, just buy the warranty. It's about the cost of one game.

In message <1149870114.471001.22280 DeleteThis @h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Tom
<tom_overton_1968 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> writes
>Hoodoo wrote:
>> I'm thinking about holding out for a little while longer before buying a 360
>> because of the worrying
>> reliability stories above.I don't remember this sort of thing when the
>> original Xbox came out.
>> Just out of interest, is anybody else hanging on for a bit before getting a
>> 360?
>
>I don't see the point in waiting, the X360 isn't going to get a lot
>more reliable, since it's really not that unreliable to begin with.

There's been quite a few failures reported in the ugv* groups and I
personally know people outside of the groups that have run into problems
too. I do not recall this being the case on release with the original
Xbox and I don't know anyone at all that's had a failed Gamecube for
example.

> I
>think the actual figures are something around 3 percent defect rate.

I know that's what MS have been saying, and I don't want to seem
paranoid, but who has verified that figure ?

I read an article only a month or so back, that said MS had been having
trouble with yields on some particular component or other. A suspicious
mind might question if the quality control was "relaxed" ever so
slightly for the initial release, in an attempt to make the supply
problems very slightly better.
--
FatHippy
'Poking death in the face with a big stick and then running away'
(To reply by e-mail, please replace {$spamtrap$} with fathippy)
Name: Fats Town: Bauhaus