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Throg

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:44 am
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Isnt there a patch that will alow people that is honored to do heroic and
not have to be exalted anymore? i thought that was this patch?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:44 am
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On Nov 13, 10:44 am, "Throg" <j... RemoveThis @REMOVETHISletsparty.dj> wrote:
> Isnt there a patch that will alow people that is honored to do heroic and
> not have to be exalted anymore? i thought that was this patch?

No offense, but something tells me that someone unfamiliar with the
entry requirements for a heroic instance may not be ready to run a
heroic instance. Previously, the requirement to enter a heroic was
revered, not exalted. And yes, it is now honored, but it still seems
a bit early in the day for the servers to be back up after a patch so
I don't think you've been able to try this on a live server yet.

Second, I don't know what level you are, but you need to be level 70
to enter a heroic instance.

Third, you need to visit the respective quartermaster for the faction
that has rep gains in that instance and purchase a key from him. I
believe these keys run around 9g each.

And fourth, and this is not a requirement, more of a suggestion, gear
up. If you're clad in a bunch of greens, you're not ready for a
heroic.
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lcpltom

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:44 am
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On Nov 13, 12:50 pm, Catriona R <catrionarNOS... RemoveThis @totalise.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:22:51 -0800, lcpltom <lcpl... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Second, I don't know what level you are, but you need to be level 70
> >to enter a heroic instance.
>
> No you don't, I entered one at lvl 68 on my warlock (can get revered with
> CE very easily through handins and quests) You do, however, need to be 70
> and well-geared to have a chance to survive in one.
> --
> EU-Draenor:
> Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
> Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
> Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
> Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
> Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 63)
> Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
> Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 53)
> Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 31)
> Cathach - Gnome Warrior (lvl 30)

I thought one of the requirements on purchasing the keys was being
level 70, guess I was wrong about that. Perhaps it might be a good
idea for them to go back and put some level requirements on the keys.

So yes, more of a suggestion than a requirement here.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:52 pm
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In <%Dj_i.79$xt4.22@newsfe10.lga> "Throg" <joe.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISletsparty.dj> writes:

> Isnt there a patch that will alow people that is honored to do heroic and
> not have to be exalted anymore? i thought that was this patch?

Yes. It's in the patch notes.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:03 pm
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On 13 Nov, 15:44, "Throg" <j... RemoveThis @REMOVETHISletsparty.dj> wrote:
> Isnt there a patch that will alow people that is honored to do heroic and
> not have to be exalted anymore? i thought that was this patch?

It never was exalted, it was revered.

Phil.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:56 pm
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On 2007-11-13 16:44:47 +0100, "Throg" <joe DeleteThis @REMOVETHISletsparty.dj> said:

> Isnt there a patch that will alow people that is honored to do heroic
> and not have to be exalted anymore? i thought that was this patch?

It is the 2.3 patch indeed. But I suspect you are trying to walk into
the heroic instance solely because you are honoured with the relevant
faction, and that won't work! Go visit the relevant quartermaster, and
he will sell you the heroic key provided you are honoured with his
faction. Once you have the key, you can enter the heroic dungeon.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:12 pm
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On Nov 13, 11:22 am, lcpltom <lcpl....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 10:44 am, "Throg" <j....DeleteThis@REMOVETHISletsparty.dj> wrote:
>
> > Isnt there a patch that will alow people that is honored to do heroic and
> > not have to be exalted anymore? i thought that was this patch?
>
> No offense, but something tells me that someone unfamiliar with the
> entry requirements for a heroic instance may not be ready to run a
> heroic instance. Previously, the requirement to enter a heroic was
> revered, not exalted. And yes, it is now honored, but it still seems
> a bit early in the day for the servers to be back up after a patch so
> I don't think you've been able to try this on a live server yet.
>
> Second, I don't know what level you are, but you need to be level 70
> to enter a heroic instance.
>
> Third, you need to visit the respective quartermaster for the faction
> that has rep gains in that instance and purchase a key from him. I
> believe these keys run around 9g each.
>
> And fourth, and this is not a requirement, more of a suggestion, gear
> up. If you're clad in a bunch of greens, you're not ready for a
> heroic.

I gotta agree here. I'm not a fan of the "nanny state" type approach
where Blizzard forces you through the dungeons lots of times hoping
you'll learn stuff, but for heroics, you need to have a) decent gear,
b) a good understanding of your class, and c) VERY good knowledge of
the dungeon you're going to run.

About the only thing that this change truly does help are alts -
people who have already done all the keys on 1 or more chars and
simply don't have the time to earn them again on another char. If
they have decent gear, they already know the dungeons, and should be
fine. If you're completely new to heroics though, and think that the
jump from revered to honored now means you can do more 'leet stuff,
then you're just disillusioned.

I personally think that a better idea would be to tie attunements and
keys to the account, rather than the toon. Once the account has a key
to a heroic, then all toons can do it. Once an account is attuned to
Kara, all toons on it can run it.

Mike
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Throg

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:12 pm
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ya. i was sure if it was revered or exalted. i know im already honored. im a
70 warlock. (look me up joeyjoe). i know i have to buy the key. the only one
im keyed for is CoT which im sure everyone and there mother is.


thank you guys for the quick replys

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> On Nov 13, 11:22 am, lcpltom <lcpl....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 13, 10:44 am, "Throg" <j....TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISletsparty.dj> wrote:
>>
>> > Isnt there a patch that will alow people that is honored to do heroic
>> > and
>> > not have to be exalted anymore? i thought that was this patch?
>>
>> No offense, but something tells me that someone unfamiliar with the
>> entry requirements for a heroic instance may not be ready to run a
>> heroic instance. Previously, the requirement to enter a heroic was
>> revered, not exalted. And yes, it is now honored, but it still seems
>> a bit early in the day for the servers to be back up after a patch so
>> I don't think you've been able to try this on a live server yet.
>>
>> Second, I don't know what level you are, but you need to be level 70
>> to enter a heroic instance.
>>
>> Third, you need to visit the respective quartermaster for the faction
>> that has rep gains in that instance and purchase a key from him. I
>> believe these keys run around 9g each.
>>
>> And fourth, and this is not a requirement, more of a suggestion, gear
>> up. If you're clad in a bunch of greens, you're not ready for a
>> heroic.
>
> I gotta agree here. I'm not a fan of the "nanny state" type approach
> where Blizzard forces you through the dungeons lots of times hoping
> you'll learn stuff, but for heroics, you need to have a) decent gear,
> b) a good understanding of your class, and c) VERY good knowledge of
> the dungeon you're going to run.
>
> About the only thing that this change truly does help are alts -
> people who have already done all the keys on 1 or more chars and
> simply don't have the time to earn them again on another char. If
> they have decent gear, they already know the dungeons, and should be
> fine. If you're completely new to heroics though, and think that the
> jump from revered to honored now means you can do more 'leet stuff,
> then you're just disillusioned.
>
> I personally think that a better idea would be to tie attunements and
> keys to the account, rather than the toon. Once the account has a key
> to a heroic, then all toons can do it. Once an account is attuned to
> Kara, all toons on it can run it.
>
> Mike
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:50 pm
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:22:51 -0800, lcpltom <lcpltom DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>Second, I don't know what level you are, but you need to be level 70
>to enter a heroic instance.

No you don't, I entered one at lvl 68 on my warlock (can get revered with
CE very easily through handins and quests) You do, however, need to be 70
and well-geared to have a chance to survive in one.
--
EU-Draenor:
Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 63)
Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 53)
Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 31)
Cathach - Gnome Warrior (lvl 30)
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:35 pm
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:18:56 -0800, lcpltom <lcpltom RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Nov 13, 12:50 pm, Catriona R <catrionarNOS... RemoveThis @totalise.co.uk>
>wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:22:51 -0800, lcpltom <lcpl... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Second, I don't know what level you are, but you need to be level 70
>> >to enter a heroic instance.
>>
>> No you don't, I entered one at lvl 68 on my warlock (can get revered with
>> CE very easily through handins and quests) You do, however, need to be 70
>> and well-geared to have a chance to survive in one.
>
>I thought one of the requirements on purchasing the keys was being
>level 70, guess I was wrong about that. Perhaps it might be a good
>idea for them to go back and put some level requirements on the keys.
>
>So yes, more of a suggestion than a requirement here.

Agreed, I think it would be a good idea! Seemed to be no requirement when I
bought my key, I was expecting to get told I couldn't enter the instance
but I went into Slave Pens heroic and saw lvl 70 mobs running around, so it
was definitely heroic Smile
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EU-Draenor:
Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 63)
Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 53)
Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 31)
Cathach - Gnome Warrior (lvl 30)
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:38 pm
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"lcpltom" <lcpltom.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 13, 10:44 am, "Throg" <j....DeleteThis@REMOVETHISletsparty.dj> wrote:

> Second, I don't know what level you are, but you need to be level 70
> to enter a heroic instance.

This is not entirely true... I was 69 with my priest when I entered an
Heroic (Just too check it out if it was true that before 70 you can't get
in)...

One thing I DO have to say, my WoW crashed shortly after, so perhaps it was
a bug... bu I was definitely in Heroic (I visited Ramparts.. so that's why I
know for sure)..
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