PWB Bonfire edition

In article <slrnfitrb5.6pf.google.DeleteThis@ID-171443.user.uni-berlin.de>,
Toby Newman <google.DeleteThis@asktoby.com> wrote:
>On 2007-11-05, deKay <andyk.DeleteThis@lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
>>>Play:
>> Ico (PS2)
>> Am I the only one who finds this frustrating? Over all, I'm thinking it's 50%
>> beautiful and amazing, 50% annoying and stupid. I've just passed the
>> waterfall, and my saved game says 5 hours although because I had to redo bits
>> so many times yesterday the gap from 4 to 5 took over two hours. Main issues
>> are Yorda getting kidnapped as you have no way of telling how long you can
>> leave her alone for (and in different bits of the game it's different) and
>> dying because the camera flicks slightly to the side when you have to do a
>> jump (and miss). And back you go for miles again. GRR.
>
>I had none of those problems: You can leave Yorda unattended for precicely
>"not long", so just don't do it, okay? I honestly don't remember a single
>camera niggle.

I've actually suspended my play exactly where deKay is now, at or around
the waterfall. You end up having to leave Yorda in a completely different
room while you run around climbing ladders and pushing switches and making
tea so that the big aquaduct valves open up the right way. Maybe I missed
an obvious place for her to stand while I do all this so that she doesn't
feel lonely and unappreciated.

-KKC, who needs to play God of War 2, Twilight Princess and about a dozen
FPS games to be caught up with the rest of the group.
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Chris Whitworth wrote:
> On 2007-11-05, deKay <andyk RemoveThis @lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
>> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des 5 Nov 2007
>> 09:55:15 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.games.video.misc,
>> yawatina tan reek esk Chris Whitworth <usenet.chris RemoveThis @parm.net> fornis do
>> marikano es bono tan el:
>>
>>> Brane Traneing (Wii) - Was fully intending to not buy any more games for aages
>>> but I was in a bad mood on saturday morning and needed retail therapy.
>> WHAT
>>
>> Is this out already?! I thought it wasn't due until next year? Nintendo
>> advertise the hell out of the DS version (which has been out ages), but don't
>> mention the Wii one? Pff.
>
> Sorry, I clearly meant Big Brain Academy. Sorry to get you all excited.
>
> Chris

No excitement here so no worries. Couldn't care less about the Wii.


qt

Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 05 Nov
2007 14:00:01 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.misc, yawatina tan reek esk Toby Newman <google.RemoveThis@asktoby.com>
fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>I had none of those problems: You can leave Yorda unattended for precicely
>"not long",

I left her for a good half an hour in the sewer, and she was fine. After the
East Reflector bit, you have to climb a large ladder to hit a switch to drop a
bridge. I got to the top of the ladder as Yorda was about half way up, the
switch was just inside the next room, I pulled it, and Yorda was nabbed right
away. Net time away from her: 3 seconds.

>so just don't do it, okay?

I've found three places so far where it's impossible *not* to leave her for a
relatively long period.

>I honestly don't remember a single
>camera niggle.

The jump to the chain just past the waterfall was the worst - you can't line
up and have to do it at an almost isometric view, then, as you're about to
jump, the camera swings round to view the chain right in front of you, by
which time you've committed and so you die.

>The whole game was enjoyably easy (it must have been - I played it whilst
>recovering from general anaesthetic).

Admittedly, my main difficulty is perhaps with the controls.

deKay
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In article <m49ui3p307npmdmite6pr0j41gioeiq5f4 RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
deKay <andyk RemoveThis @lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
>Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 05 Nov
>2007 14:00:01 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
>uk.games.video.misc, yawatina tan reek esk Toby Newman <google RemoveThis @asktoby.com>
>fornis do marikano es bono tan el:
>
>>I honestly don't remember a single
>>camera niggle.
>
>The jump to the chain just past the waterfall was the worst - you can't line
>up and have to do it at an almost isometric view, then, as you're about to
>jump, the camera swings round to view the chain right in front of you, by
>which time you've committed and so you die.

This is easier than you think. You don't have to position Honry Harry any
particular way, as he will automatically leap towards the chain if you
don't touch the analog stick when you hit the button. It's rather like the
automatic jump in Burning Rangers, in that it's counter-intuitive on the
surface. I had no trouble with the chain(s) once I figured that out.

-KKC, doing fun things with Robohelp.
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"Kendrick Kerwin Chua" <kendrick DeleteThis @nospam.io> wrote in message
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> In article <m49ui3p307npmdmite6pr0j41gioeiq5f4 DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
> deKay <andyk DeleteThis @lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The jump to the chain just past the waterfall was the worst - you can't
>>line
>>up and have to do it at an almost isometric view, then, as you're about to
>>jump, the camera swings round to view the chain right in front of you, by
>>which time you've committed and so you die.
>
> This is easier than you think. You don't have to position Honry Harry any
> particular way, as he will automatically leap towards the chain if you
> don't touch the analog stick when you hit the button. It's rather like the
> automatic jump in Burning Rangers, in that it's counter-intuitive on the
> surface. I had no trouble with the chain(s) once I figured that out.

It's the same with combat and other jumping tasks. Once you figure out the
nuances of the control scheme (which really isn't that conventional) it's a
joy to play.

Shak

In article <fgmcf3$15df$1@energise.enta.net>, qwerty DeleteThis @qwerty.invalid
says...
> Play:

Crysis Demo (PC) - rather enjoyable, if short demo. Definitely
considering it. Looks tasty on the new PC too.

Bioshock (PC) - finally finished this after restarting it from scratch
when I bought my new PC instead of merely copying over my saved games.
Tbg gur tnzr raqvat sbe crbcyr jub fnir gur yvggyr fvfgref - gb sngvthrq
jvgu guvf gb fgneg ntnva naq xvyy gurz ng gur zbzrag gubhtu.



Far Cry (PC) - bought this in early 2005 to play on my then new PC from
Mesh. But had trouble with that PC and when i finally got a replacement
that didn't BSOD all the bloody time I was too busy playing Dark Age Of
Camelot.

I enjoyed this game quite a bit, graphics were pretty good, the
ability to choose your route to your goal, choose whether to stealthily
bypass enemies or go in "all guns blazing" but bloody hell it's a long
game.

Had the same game cliche as Bioshock jurer gur sevraqyl crefba
thvqvat lbh nybat gur tnzr gheaf bhg gb or whfg nf zhpu bs n ivyynva nf
gur znva ivyynva.


Painkiller (PC) - another old game that I've never got to the end of,
due to a problem with the PC before the Mesh one. However, I'm taking my
time with this game and playing others as this one is rather tiring as
it's in the same vein as Serious Sam where you enter an area, get locked
in and then fight off hordes of monsters before being allowed to move
on.

Quake Wars (PC) - only played this for twenty minutes in the past month.
Decided to try the engineer class which builds turrets to hurt enemy
players - fun enough and I'll endeavour to play more this week.

> Want:

Crysis (PC)

Warhammer Online Beta (PC)

Another week off...no two...no three etc to play more
unfinished/unplayed games - Pariah (PC) is next on the list.


> Bin:

Money being tight due to wife's unemployment

A week off not being long enough

Christmas incoming (the expense not the receiving pressies bit though)

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Chris Stevens wrote:
> "The Rev" <the_rev_yes_really DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Want:
>> Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness (PSP) - It's on the way. And the post just
>> came, so there's an outside chance of it being lying by the front door
>> right now. I'd expect it nearer the end of the week, though. ...And here
>> comes the boss with the post. Nothing for me.
>>
>> Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) - I hope this is more 64 than Sunshine. I really
>> didn't get on with Sunshine. Far too hard. Void levels were lovely,
>> though.
>
> I think Sunshine got an unduly bad press. I thought it was a fine game, and
> the FLUDD really added to the gameplay (although I can understand the
> purists' objections).

I really didn't like Sunshine. Its probably the only Mario game along
with Mario Bros 2 that I didnt like.

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Play:

The Signing On Game (RL): Yep, I'm now officially a scrounger . Actually,
my appointment with the Job Centre was quite productive, and I've been given
the details of a couple of Manchester-based admin jobs that I will be
applying for tomorrow. Apparently I have to apply for two jobs a week (which
is more or less what I've been doing since February anyway) and take three
steps a week to further my jobhunting process (again, as I do daily jobsite
searches via a multitude of search engines, it goes a hell of a lot further
than three steps). Wasn't quite as painful as I remember from 2001, but then
I've had a lot of work experience since then.

As I expected, however, there isn't any real training options open to me,
because apparently, I'm more than skilled enough for most admin/marketing
jobs (although from past experience, not skilled *enough* to even be called
in for an interview for said jobs), although I've arranged to see their
careers advisor to see what else I should be looking at. The downside is,
because I've waited so long to actually put in a claim, I don't qualify for
contributions-based JSA, just the regular JSA, which has some nasty strings
attached, i.e. I have to accept any minimum-wage job offered to me. Having
said that, minimum wage is a lot higher than it was in 2001, so it's
certainly a livable wage under my circumstances.

Oblivion (PC): I think I must be a glutton for punishment because over the
weekend I started yet another new game. Now considering that my previous two
attempts had ended up being totally corrupted at 370 and 50 hours
respectively, I'm being a lot more tentative this time around. The only mod
I have running (other than official mods) is the "No persistent enchantment
glow" mod which has never given me any trouble in the past. One mod that I
suspect was the cause of all my troubles of late was the "Carry four times
more loot" mod which I forgot to turn off when I started a new game last
time. However, only time will tell of course.

Want:

SimCity Societies (PC): So it may not be the extensive city-management sim
that all the SC purists are after, but seeing as the last SC game I played
was SC2000, I'm not being put off by that. SCS looks like being a lot of fun
in its own way.

A job, naturally.

Bin:

Bonfire Night: How is tonight going to differ from the last 28 days of yobs
shoving fireworks up their arses?

Paul.

Toby Newman the Monkey was never naughty:
> On 2007-11-05, deKay <andyk DeleteThis @lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
>>>Play:
>> Ico (PS2)
>> Am I the only one who finds this frustrating? Over all, I'm thinking it's 50%
>> beautiful and amazing, 50% annoying and stupid. I've just passed the
>> waterfall, and my saved game says 5 hours although because I had to redo bits
>> so many times yesterday the gap from 4 to 5 took over two hours. Main issues
>> are Yorda getting kidnapped as you have no way of telling how long you can
>> leave her alone for (and in different bits of the game it's different) and
>> dying because the camera flicks slightly to the side when you have to do a
>> jump (and miss). And back you go for miles again. GRR.
>
> I had none of those problems: You can leave Yorda unattended for precicely
> "not long", so just don't do it, okay? I honestly don't remember a single
> camera niggle.
> The whole game was enjoyably easy (it must have been - I played it whilst
> recovering from general anaesthetic).

Yup - I think the problem Mr Kay is having is that he's not suitably
paniced. The point of the game is NOT to solve the puzzles and get out
of the castle - that's secondary. The point of the game is to SAVE THE
GIRL. So you only leave her if you absolutely must and for the bare
minimum of time.

Choobs

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Chris Whitworth the Monkey was never naughty:
> On 2007-11-05, The Rev <the_rev_yes_really.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> (Sunshine) Void levels were lovely, though.
>
> YOU ARE SO WRONG.

NO HE IS NOT!

I would have been 100% delighted with Sunshine if the WHOLE GAME had
been comprised of fluddless puzzle levels.

Choobs

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QT the Monkey was never naughty:
> Chris Whitworth wrote:
>> On 2007-11-05, deKay <andyk.TakeThisOut@lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
>>> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des 5 Nov 2007
>>> 09:55:15 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.games.video.misc,
>>> yawatina tan reek esk Chris Whitworth <usenet.chris.TakeThisOut@parm.net> fornis do
>>> marikano es bono tan el:
>>>
>>>> Brane Traneing (Wii) - Was fully intending to not buy any more games for aages
>>>> but I was in a bad mood on saturday morning and needed retail therapy.
>>> WHAT
>>>
>>> Is this out already?! I thought it wasn't due until next year? Nintendo
>>> advertise the hell out of the DS version (which has been out ages), but don't
>>> mention the Wii one? Pff.
>>
>> Sorry, I clearly meant Big Brain Academy. Sorry to get you all excited.
>>
>> Chris
>
> No excitement here so no worries. Couldn't care less about the Wii.

Thanks for posting that - you added so much to the thread.

I seem to have completely given up on BBA for some reason - haven't
played it in weeks. Probably because you all sent in scores that were
double mine

Choobs

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Steve Jackson wrote:
> Play:

I bought a Wii so;

Wii Sports : Everybody loves it - even the mother in Law. Clearly broken
though as the wife has the highest score.

Excite Truck : I was ready to struggle with the control method but it's
totally intuitive. And the jumping and the boosting and the everything
is all good so far.

Wario Ware Smooth Moves : The wife and the child love it and it's been
worth it so far for the Marks & Spencer voiced bloke doing the form
introductions.

Also played

PGR4 (360) : Up to 15th in Career and tried a Superstar Arcade race on a
motorbike - much harder than the cars that discipline.

Pinball FX (360) : The new free table for a couple of goes. Worth it for
nowt that's for sure.

> Want:

To know if Tiger Woods 08 is any good before I crack the cellophane on
it. Got it bundled with the console from Game along with Fifa 08 which
they swapped for Excite Truck easy enough. Anyone got an opinion?

Super Mario Galaxy. Obviously.

> Bin:
>
> Game purchasing weakness.

Console purchasing weakness.

"Trousers" <getckd RemoveThis @bibble.com> wrote in message
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>> Want:
>
> To know if Tiger Woods 08 is any good before I crack the cellophane on it.
> Got it bundled with the console from Game along with Fifa 08 which they
> swapped for Excite Truck easy enough. Anyone got an opinion?

I can't speak definitively about the '08 iteration, but '07 was a major
disappointment to me. Not, you understand, in terms of content, because it
had plenty of courses, game modes and options, but purely in terms of the
feel of the swing. Given that that one simple mechanic is central to
everything you do in the game, if it is broken then the game's broken. What
might be worth doing is to check the IGN review of '08, because they pretty
much nailed what the problems were with '07. If they say that the swing is
massively improved, then I say yeah, break the seal. If they don't then keep
it virgin and ditch it.


Chris.

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