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Since: Sep 18, 2005 Posts: 109
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:50 am
Post subject: Ex Nihilo and Descent into Darkness question Archived from groups: rec>games>trading-cards>jyhad (more info?)
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Okay,
So Robert Scythe's deck with talbots chainsaw and Ex Nihilo got me
thinking.
If when your vampire was low on pool you were to Descent into Darkness
and the vampire goes out of play, the Ex Nihilo goes out of play as
well. Does this mean that the vampire can then regain blood through
Descent into Darkness? And by extension no longer pays the 1 blood
each turn?
Descent into Darkness. Action
Obtenebration
1 Blood
+1 stealth action.
[obt] Turn the acting vampire and any cards on him or her face down,
out of play (breaking any temporary control effects). Put this card on
him or her (in play). During your influence phase, move 2 blood to
this face down vampire from the blood bank, and you can choose to burn
this card to return the vampire to play, tapped.
[OBT] As above, but the vampire is untapped when he or she returns to
play.
Ex Nihilo. Action
Necromancy
1 Blood
+1 stealth action.
[nec] Put this card on this vampire. This vampire gets +1 stealth.
Damage he or she inflicts in combat is reduced to 0, and he or she is
immune to non-aggravated damage. This vampire cannot gain blood; any
blood he or she gains goes to the blood bank instead. During your
master phase, this vampire burns 1 blood or is burned. You may burn
this card during your untap phase.
[NEC] As above, but you may burn this card during any Methuselah's
untap phase.
John P.
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Since: Jan 11, 2008 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:06 am
Post subject: Re: Ex Nihilo and Descent into Darkness question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Nov 6, 11:50 am, "John P." <jtpat....RemoveThis@mts.net> wrote:
> Okay,
>
> So Robert Scythe's deck with talbots chainsaw and Ex Nihilo got me
> thinking.
>
> If when your vampire was low on pool you were to Descent into Darkness
> and the vampire goes out of play, the Ex Nihilo goes out of play as
> well. Does this mean that the vampire can then regain blood through
> Descent into Darkness? And by extension no longer pays the 1 blood
> each turn?
>
> Descent into Darkness. Action
> Obtenebration
> 1 Blood
> +1 stealth action.
> [obt] Turn the acting vampire and any cards on him or her face down,
> out of play (breaking any temporary control effects). Put this card on
> him or her (in play). During your influence phase, move 2 blood to
> this face down vampire from the blood bank, and you can choose to burn
> this card to return the vampire to play, tapped.
> [OBT] As above, but the vampire is untapped when he or she returns to
> play.
>
> Ex Nihilo. Action
> Necromancy
> 1 Blood
> +1 stealth action.
> [nec] Put this card on this vampire. This vampire gets +1 stealth.
> Damage he or she inflicts in combat is reduced to 0, and he or she is
> immune to non-aggravated damage. This vampire cannot gain blood; any
> blood he or she gains goes to the blood bank instead. During your
> master phase, this vampire burns 1 blood or is burned. You may burn
> this card during your untap phase.
> [NEC] As above, but you may burn this card during any Methuselah's
> untap phase.
>
> John P.
> Winnipeg
Because Descent into Darkness removes the vampire and the cards on him
from the game while the decent is in play, then:
YES you treat the minion as if it were not in play and ignore the
effect of Ex Nihilo or any other card on that minion (except Descent
into Darkness) for the duration of Descent into Darkness, and the
minion will gain the 2 blood during each of your influence phases. |
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Since: Jul 10, 2009 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:31 am
Post subject: Re: Ex Nihilo and Descent into Darkness question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 6 Nov, 18:06, aaronmiller38 <aaronmille... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 11:50 am, "John P." <jtpat... RemoveThis @mts.net> wrote:
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> Because Descent into Darkness removes the vampire and the cards on him
> from the game while the decent is in play, then:
>
> YES you treat the minion as if it were not in play and ignore the
> effect of Ex Nihilo or any other card on that minion (except Descent
> into Darkness) for the duration of Descent into Darkness, and the
> minion will gain the 2 blood during each of your influence phases.
Ohoo. So thatīs whatīs the point with Luca Italicus and Luna Giovanni. |
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