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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:02 am
Post subject: LOTR GOLLUM/GIMLI/X-Ball, Ball Kick-Out Issue
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Has anyone experienced a problem with the ball kick-out from the
GOLLUM/GIMLI/Extra Ball hole to the upper Habit Trail? Most of the time
it takes my LOTR 2-4 "Kicks" to get the ball up on the habit trail.
I've replaced the Solenoid Bushing and checked the alignment of the
Habit Trail 180/Roll-Over to the center of the "Kick-Out" and it
appears to be centered. What's with STERN using the first switch on the
habit trail rather then the Last switch (inlane switch) on the way to
the flippers to start the score countdown when you activate "Hit
Balrog", as you start losing obtainable (Max 500K) points way before
you can shoot at it? Does STERN have a newer ROM that fixes this or is
there a setting to change I haven't found (I have the last run of LOTR,
Mfg. Jan 05)? Did the entire last run LOTR's COME WITH NO GOLLUM or
just a few? Thanks.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:24 am
Post subject: Re: LOTR GOLLUM/GIMLI/X-Ball, Ball Kick-Out Issue [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hey Kim,
The VUK problem is well docmuneted. Search google to find more info on
it.
Mine came Gollum-less, I picked one up from Terry at Pinball Life. It's
cheap.
Andrew
Kim wrote:
> Has anyone experienced a problem with the ball kick-out from the
> GOLLUM/GIMLI/Extra Ball hole to the upper Habit Trail? Most of the time
> it takes my LOTR 2-4 "Kicks" to get the ball up on the habit trail.
> I've replaced the Solenoid Bushing and checked the alignment of the
> Habit Trail 180/Roll-Over to the center of the "Kick-Out" and it
> appears to be centered. What's with STERN using the first switch on the
> habit trail rather then the Last switch (inlane switch) on the way to
> the flippers to start the score countdown when you activate "Hit
> Balrog", as you start losing obtainable (Max 500K) points way before
> you can shoot at it? Does STERN have a newer ROM that fixes this or is
> there a setting to change I haven't found (I have the last run of LOTR,
> Mfg. Jan 05)? Did the entire last run LOTR's COME WITH NO GOLLUM or
> just a few? Thanks.
> Kim |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:01 am
Post subject: Re: LOTR GOLLUM/GIMLI/X-Ball, Ball Kick-Out Issue [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Link to Gollum at PBL:
http://www.pinballlife.com/page457.html
Here is a link to my fix:
http://www.nicompco.com/arcade/LOTR/
I picked up the rubber post cap for the fix for this at PBL as well:
http://www.pinballlife.com/page110.html
Google is freaking out, hopefully this won't post 43 times 
Andrew
normandie74 RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> Hey Kim,
>
> The VUK problem is well docmuneted. Search google to find more info on
> it.
>
> Mine came Gollum-less, I picked one up from Terry at Pinball Life. It's
> cheap.
>
> Andrew
>
> Kim wrote:
> > Has anyone experienced a problem with the ball kick-out from the
> > GOLLUM/GIMLI/Extra Ball hole to the upper Habit Trail? Most of the time
> > it takes my LOTR 2-4 "Kicks" to get the ball up on the habit trail.
> > I've replaced the Solenoid Bushing and checked the alignment of the
> > Habit Trail 180/Roll-Over to the center of the "Kick-Out" and it
> > appears to be centered. What's with STERN using the first switch on the
> > habit trail rather then the Last switch (inlane switch) on the way to
> > the flippers to start the score countdown when you activate "Hit
> > Balrog", as you start losing obtainable (Max 500K) points way before
> > you can shoot at it? Does STERN have a newer ROM that fixes this or is
> > there a setting to change I haven't found (I have the last run of LOTR,
> > Mfg. Jan 05)? Did the entire last run LOTR's COME WITH NO GOLLUM or
> > just a few? Thanks.
> > Kim |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:06 am
Post subject: Re: LOTR GOLLUM/GIMLI/X-Ball, Ball Kick-Out Issue [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Also,
Here is the link to Pinball Life, the Gollum page:
http://www.pinballlife.com/page457.html
Here is how I stopped my up kicker from missing:
http://www.nicompco.com/arcade/LOTR/
The kicker works perfectly 99% of the time now that I installed this.
Andrew
normandie74 RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> Hey Kim,
>
> The VUK problem is well docmuneted. Search google to find more info on
> it.
>
> Mine came Gollum-less, I picked one up from Terry at Pinball Life. It's
> cheap.
>
> Andrew
>
> Kim wrote:
> > Has anyone experienced a problem with the ball kick-out from the
> > GOLLUM/GIMLI/Extra Ball hole to the upper Habit Trail? Most of the time
> > it takes my LOTR 2-4 "Kicks" to get the ball up on the habit trail.
> > I've replaced the Solenoid Bushing and checked the alignment of the
> > Habit Trail 180/Roll-Over to the center of the "Kick-Out" and it
> > appears to be centered. What's with STERN using the first switch on the
> > habit trail rather then the Last switch (inlane switch) on the way to
> > the flippers to start the score countdown when you activate "Hit
> > Balrog", as you start losing obtainable (Max 500K) points way before
> > you can shoot at it? Does STERN have a newer ROM that fixes this or is
> > there a setting to change I haven't found (I have the last run of LOTR,
> > Mfg. Jan 05)? Did the entire last run LOTR's COME WITH NO GOLLUM or
> > just a few? Thanks.
> > Kim |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:07 am
Post subject: Re: LOTR GOLLUM/GIMLI/X-Ball, Ball Kick-Out Issue [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hey Kim, I should also mention Terry at Pinballlife has the Gollum
cheap.
http://www.pinballlife.com/page457.html
I also fixed my Gollum VUK problem by adding a rubber. See pictures
here:
http://www.nicompco.com/arcade/LOTR/
Andrew
normandie74.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hey Kim,
>
> The VUK problem is well docmuneted. Search google to find more info on
> it.
>
> Mine came Gollum-less, I picked one up from Terry at Pinball Life. It's
> cheap.
>
> Andrew
>
> Kim wrote:
> > Has anyone experienced a problem with the ball kick-out from the
> > GOLLUM/GIMLI/Extra Ball hole to the upper Habit Trail? Most of the time
> > it takes my LOTR 2-4 "Kicks" to get the ball up on the habit trail.
> > I've replaced the Solenoid Bushing and checked the alignment of the
> > Habit Trail 180/Roll-Over to the center of the "Kick-Out" and it
> > appears to be centered. What's with STERN using the first switch on the
> > habit trail rather then the Last switch (inlane switch) on the way to
> > the flippers to start the score countdown when you activate "Hit
> > Balrog", as you start losing obtainable (Max 500K) points way before
> > you can shoot at it? Does STERN have a newer ROM that fixes this or is
> > there a setting to change I haven't found (I have the last run of LOTR,
> > Mfg. Jan 05)? Did the entire last run LOTR's COME WITH NO GOLLUM or
> > just a few? Thanks.
> > Kim |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:22 am
Post subject: Re: LOTR GOLLUM/GIMLI/X-Ball, Ball Kick-Out Issue [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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LOL, did I stutter?
AB
Kim wrote:
> Has anyone experienced a problem with the ball kick-out from the
> GOLLUM/GIMLI/Extra Ball hole to the upper Habit Trail? Most of the time
> it takes my LOTR 2-4 "Kicks" to get the ball up on the habit trail.
> I've replaced the Solenoid Bushing and checked the alignment of the
> Habit Trail 180/Roll-Over to the center of the "Kick-Out" and it
> appears to be centered. What's with STERN using the first switch on the
> habit trail rather then the Last switch (inlane switch) on the way to
> the flippers to start the score countdown when you activate "Hit
> Balrog", as you start losing obtainable (Max 500K) points way before
> you can shoot at it? Does STERN have a newer ROM that fixes this or is
> there a setting to change I haven't found (I have the last run of LOTR,
> Mfg. Jan 05)? Did the entire last run LOTR's COME WITH NO GOLLUM or
> just a few? Thanks.
> Kim |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:40 am
Post subject: Re: LOTR GOLLUM/GIMLI/X-Ball, Ball Kick-Out Issue [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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What's the rubber tip supposed to do, prevent the ball from falling
back down after it is successfully kicked up there, or makes it kick
all the way up there more successfully, and if so, why does it work?
Just wondering as mine is about 99.9999% reliable on first kick and
have never done anything to it, I do run the game on the high solenoid
setting though...Frenchy |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:13 am
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It slows the ball down enough that it does not bounce out of the
habitrail...
It was making it all the way up, but it was slamming so hard it would
bounce right back down onto the PF.
Mine is on high too 
Andrew
frenchy wrote:
> What's the rubber tip supposed to do, prevent the ball from falling
> back down after it is successfully kicked up there, or makes it kick
> all the way up there more successfully, and if so, why does it work?
> Just wondering as mine is about 99.9999% reliable on first kick and
> have never done anything to it, I do run the game on the high solenoid
> setting though...Frenchy |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:55 pm
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Mine doesn't hiccup at default either, I like the sling action better
at high, and I have line voltage of about 115, not 120, so a little
boost doesn't hurt...Frenchy |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:45 pm
Post subject: Re: LOTR GOLLUM/GIMLI/X-Ball, Ball Kick-Out Issue [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Make sure the riser and nut on either side of the saucer are tight. If
they are, closely inspect the welds holding all the wire together and
see if any are cracked or broken. If everything is tight (check the top
two fasteners at the backboard as well), make sure the game is level
left-to-right.
Let us know if you discover the cause.
-cody
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:02 am
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In news:<1125673333.400062.129550 RemoveThis @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Kim
<cyberkman RemoveThis @charter.net> says...
> Has anyone experienced a problem with the ball kick-out from the
> GOLLUM/GIMLI/Extra Ball hole to the upper Habit Trail? Most of the time
> it takes my LOTR 2-4 "Kicks" to get the ball up on the habit trail.
> I've replaced the Solenoid Bushing and checked the alignment of the
> Habit Trail 180/Roll-Over to the center of the "Kick-Out" and it
> appears to be centered. What's with STERN using the first switch on the
> habit trail rather then the Last switch (inlane switch) on the way to
> the flippers to start the score countdown when you activate "Hit
> Balrog", as you start losing obtainable (Max 500K) points way before
> you can shoot at it? Does STERN have a newer ROM that fixes this or is
> there a setting to change I haven't found (I have the last run of LOTR,
> Mfg. Jan 05)? Did the entire last run LOTR's COME WITH NO GOLLUM or
> just a few? Thanks.
Others have posted valuable advice in this thread already, so I won't
repeat them (though my VUK never gives me trouble and never did).
Which ROM version are you using? You really should install the
Director's Cut adjustment settings in any case if this is a home use
game - that gets you rid of the whole Bash Balrog thing (and IIRC
otherwise affects Cave Troll sequence (ON), DTR # of balls (2), early
tower crash / game start balrog roar / consolation balrog (all OFF)).
/Kristoffer
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