|[IRL] Didn't we already win this fight?

On Nov 2, 11:40 am, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<tausti....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> decalod85 <decalo....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote innews:e4a53878-76cf-45bb-98a9-83517aa55984@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.
> com:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 2, 10:05 am, Tetsubo <tets....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> decalod85 wrote:
> >> > On Nov 1, 10:09 pm, "Stanley Rexwinkle"
> >> > <hahnt....RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >> >>"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <tausti....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote
> >> >>in messag
> > enews:Xns9B4987109B60taustingmail@69.16.186.50...
>
> >> >>>tussock <sc....RemoveThis@clear.net.nz> wrote in
> >> >>>news:490c7333$1@clear.net.nz:
>
> >> >>>>    Rich Berlew notes
>
> >> >>>>http://www.giantitp.com/index.html#MZvsP18xmNXpVDwvCRQ
>
> >> >>>>    some noble charity refusing a donation from a GonCon
> >> >>>> auction    because
> >> >>>>of how the money was tainted by association with RPGs.
>
> >> >>>Not just "some noble charity," but rather, apparently,
> >> >>>Gygax's *favorite* charity.
>
> >> >>>Huh?
>
> >> >>>I knew Gygax was weird, but really.
>
> >> >>>--
> >> >>>Terry Austin
>
> >> >>>"There's no law west of the internet."
> >> >>>   - Nick Stump
>
> >> >>>Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
>
> >> >>what about the repentant thief on the cross beside him?
> >> >>"Verily I say u
> > nto
> >> >>thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."
> >> >>sorry had to.
>
> >> > Jesus never said that.  He didn't speak English.
>
> >>         You'd be surprised how few people seem to realize that..
>
> > While I am on a roll, and it is sunday, I will add a few other
> > facts.
>
> > Jesus was not white.  He did not have blue eyes.  He probably
> > looked like what most American Christians would call a
> > terrorist.
>
> Unless, of course, He chose to be white, with blue eyes. He *is*
> God, after all.
>
> > The gospels were not written by the Apostles.  They were written
> > (with heavy editing and much political manuevering) about 100
> > years later.
>
> But with the direct guidance of God, and therefore, they cannot be
> wrong.
>
> Man, you just don't get the whole omnipotent thing, do you?

I tend to follow this opinion on the topic....

http://www.xkcd.com/154/

On Nov 2, 8:40 pm, "Stanley Rexwinkle" <hahnt....RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "decalod85" <decalo....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:0c6cd916-2459-4e17-b807-daf4c03bfb25@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 1, 10:09 pm, "Stanley Rexwinkle" <hahnt....RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <tausti....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:Xns9B4987109B60taustingmail@69.16.186.50...
>
> > > tussock <sc....RemoveThis@clear.net.nz> wrote in
> > >news:490c7333$1@clear.net.nz:
>
> > >> Rich Berlew notes
>
> > >>http://www.giantitp.com/index.html#MZvsP18xmNXpVDwvCRQ
>
> > >> some noble charity refusing a donation from a GonCon auction
> > >> because
> > >> of how the money was tainted by association with RPGs.
>
> > > Not just "some noble charity," but rather, apparently, Gygax's
> > > *favorite* charity.
>
> > > Huh?
>
> > > I knew Gygax was weird, but really.
>
> > > --
> > > Terry Austin
>
> > > "There's no law west of the internet."
> > > - Nick Stump
>
> > > Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
>
> > what about the repentant thief on the cross beside him? "Verily I say unto
> > thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."
> > sorry had to.
> >Jesus never said that.  He didn't speak English.
>
> how do you know he didn't? maybe he just chose not to speak english. btw the
> line is from KJV. so blame king james.

Jesus of Nazareth spoke Aramaic, like all the other carpenters from
that area.

Nel tempo Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:37:26 GMT, il mio fedele schiavo Wu
desto' nel mio animo interesse sopra il conversare di Gutless Umbrella
Carrying Sissy <taustinca.TakeThisOut@gmail.com>:

>Yeah, but you're nobody, so my position still holds.

*checks* oh no, I'm definitely somebody.

Parvati V
--
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Stanley Rexwinkle wrote:
>
> "Werebat" <ranpoirier.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:h5dPk.19926$gD3.1585@newsfe01.iad...
>> Stanley Rexwinkle wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9B4987109B60taustingmail@69.16.186.50...
>>>> tussock <scrub.DeleteThis@clear.net.nz> wrote in
>>>> news:490c7333$1@clear.net.nz:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich Berlew notes
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.giantitp.com/index.html#MZvsP18xmNXpVDwvCRQ
>>>>>
>>>>> some noble charity refusing a donation from a GonCon auction
>>>>> because
>>>>> of how the money was tainted by association with RPGs.
>>>>
>>>> Not just "some noble charity," but rather, apparently, Gygax's
>>>> *favorite* charity.
>>>>
>>>> Huh?
>>>>
>>>> I knew Gygax was weird, but really.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Terry Austin
>>>>
>>>> "There's no law west of the internet."
>>>> - Nick Stump
>>>>
>>>> Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
>>> what about the repentant thief on the cross beside him? "Verily I say
>>> unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."
>>> sorry had to.
>>
>> You misplaced the comma! You misplaced the comma! SINNER!!!
> I copied from esword KJV. king james must have messed up.

Well *I* have it on good authority that the line should be read, "Verily
I say unto thee today, thou shalt be with me in paradise."

This REFUTES the FALSE ASSERTION of PAPISTS and other VILE FILLITH who
seek to LEAD MEN TO SIN OF BELIEF IN *CURRENT* *PLACE* OF HEAVEN!!! IS
IS NOT *TRUE* CHRISTIAN BELIEF!!! NOTHING BUT *LIES* AND *APOSTASY* OF
*ABOMINATION* CATROLIC CHURCH *AAAaAARGH*

Werebat wrote:
> Stanley Rexwinkle wrote:
>>
>> "Werebat" <ranpoirier DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:h5dPk.19926$gD3.1585@newsfe01.iad...
>>> Stanley Rexwinkle wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:Xns9B4987109B60taustingmail@69.16.186.50...
>>>>> tussock <scrub DeleteThis @clear.net.nz> wrote in
>>>>> news:490c7333$1@clear.net.nz:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich Berlew notes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.giantitp.com/index.html#MZvsP18xmNXpVDwvCRQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> some noble charity refusing a donation from a GonCon auction
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> of how the money was tainted by association with RPGs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not just "some noble charity," but rather, apparently, Gygax's
>>>>> *favorite* charity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> I knew Gygax was weird, but really.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Terry Austin
>>>>>
>>>>> "There's no law west of the internet."
>>>>> - Nick Stump
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
>>>> what about the repentant thief on the cross beside him? "Verily I say
>>>> unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."
>>>> sorry had to.
>>>
>>> You misplaced the comma! You misplaced the comma! SINNER!!!
>> I copied from esword KJV. king james must have messed up.
>
> Well *I* have it on good authority that the line should be read, "Verily
> I say unto thee today, thou shalt be with me in paradise."
>
> This REFUTES the FALSE ASSERTION of PAPISTS and other VILE FILLITH who
> seek to LEAD MEN TO SIN OF BELIEF IN *CURRENT* *PLACE* OF HEAVEN!!! IS
> IS NOT *TRUE* CHRISTIAN BELIEF!!! NOTHING BUT *LIES* AND *APOSTASY* OF
> *ABOMINATION* CATROLIC CHURCH *AAAaAARGH*

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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>
> Not just "some noble charity," but rather, apparently, Gygax's
> *favorite* charity.
>
> Huh?
>
> I knew Gygax was weird, but really.

Well, Gygax was a Christian. I understand his first wife was a Jehovah's
Witness, but that he was a mainstream Protestant type for most of his life.

I can easily believe that he didn't know they'd knock gamers' donations
back. Of course, this is one of the many reasons why I don't support
religious charities of any kind.

--
Christopher Adams
Sydney, Australia

When you came in, the air went out
And every shadow filled up with doubt

Christopher Adams wrote:
> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>
>> Not just "some noble charity," but rather, apparently, Gygax's
>> *favorite* charity.
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>> I knew Gygax was weird, but really.
>
> Well, Gygax was a Christian. I understand his first wife was a Jehovah's
> Witness, but that he was a mainstream Protestant type for most of his life.

The Christian roots of D&D haven't really been talked about all that
much, because they are less overt than the Tolkien or pulp fiction
roots, but they are one of the most important things differentiating it
from other RPGs of its time.

> I can easily believe that he didn't know they'd knock gamers' donations
> back. Of course, this is one of the many reasons why I don't support
> religious charities of any kind.

One wonders how they would take his money but not GenCon's. I mean, did
they not know who he was?

But I suppose they already have their reward.

Parvati V <parvatiquinta DeleteThis @email.it> wrote in
news:av8sg45tu3hv4q9o5btpi5nq26gdlcan2a@4ax.com:

> Nel tempo Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:37:26 GMT, il mio fedele schiavo
> Wu desto' nel mio animo interesse sopra il conversare di Gutless
> Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca DeleteThis @gmail.com>:
>
>>Yeah, but you're nobody, so my position still holds.
>
> *checks* oh no, I'm definitely somebody.
>
> Parvati V

If that were true, you'd have 4E. By definition.

--
Terry Austin

"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Parvati V <parvatiquinta DeleteThis @email.it> wrote in
> news:av8sg45tu3hv4q9o5btpi5nq26gdlcan2a@4ax.com:
>
>> Nel tempo Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:37:26 GMT, il mio fedele schiavo
>> Wu desto' nel mio animo interesse sopra il conversare di Gutless
>> Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca DeleteThis @gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Yeah, but you're nobody, so my position still holds.
>> *checks* oh no, I'm definitely somebody.
>>
>> Parvati V
>
> If that were true, you'd have 4E. By definition.
>

No, I'm somebody, and I certainly don't have 4e.

--
Sea Wasp
/^\
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"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp.TakeThisOut@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote in
news:gelfm2$43q$1@registered.motzarella.org:

> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Parvati V <parvatiquinta.TakeThisOut@email.it> wrote in
>> news:av8sg45tu3hv4q9o5btpi5nq26gdlcan2a@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Nel tempo Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:37:26 GMT, il mio fedele schiavo
>>> Wu desto' nel mio animo interesse sopra il conversare di Gutless
>>> Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca.TakeThisOut@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, but you're nobody, so my position still holds.
>>> *checks* oh no, I'm definitely somebody.
>>>
>>> Parvati V
>>
>> If that were true, you'd have 4E. By definition.
>>
>
> No, I'm somebody, and I certainly don't have 4e.
>
Poo on you.

--
Terry Austin

"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Some Guy wrote:
> Christopher Adams wrote:
>

>> Well, Gygax was a Christian. I understand his first wife was a Jehovah's
>> Witness, but that he was a mainstream Protestant type for most of his life.
>
> The Christian roots of D&D haven't really been talked about all that
> much, because they are less overt than the Tolkien or pulp fiction
> roots, but they are one of the most important things differentiating it
> from other RPGs of its time.

There are also knock-on effects that have to do with Gygax's desire to
avoid using Christian entities - the whole reason we have solars,
planetars, devas, and so on is that Gygax didn't want to use cherubim,
seraphim, and other Christian kinds of angels in his game.

--
Christopher Adams
Sydney, Australia

When you came in, the air went out
And every shadow filled up with doubt

> That's the first time I've ever seen "d20" used as a euphimism for a
> marijuana cigarette.

You need to get out more.

Christopher Adams wrote:

> There are also knock-on effects that have to do with Gygax's desire to
> avoid using Christian entities - the whole reason we have solars,
> planetars, devas, and so on is that Gygax didn't want to use cherubim,
> seraphim, and other Christian kinds of angels in his game.
>

But he was perfectly cool with using all the devils and demons? Because
those were present throughout Gary's tenure, and were only removed when
OTHER people took over.

That seems rather odd to me.


--
Sea Wasp
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