IL2 Sturmovik official 4.09 patch is out

On the 2 Oct 2009, "rob" <roball.TakeThisOut@xtranope.co.nz> wrote:

> Big woop, more planes I've never heard of.

Not played the Finnish Fighter career then? The Fokker D.XXI was one
of the major types of their airforce in the 'Continuation War' and,
prior to the new patch, wasn't in the game at all - even as AI-only.

> Wish they'd spend all thier time working on a decent campaign system
> that actually uses all the planes in the set............oh well

Do you mean you wanted more flyables? I assume that you know that not
all planes were used in all theatres (speaking of which, what's the
story behind some of the Yaks having Japanese skins in 4.08m?).

I'm going to download the patch as soon as I have the time to go down
the library. 550-ish meg is huge even by today's standards!

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"Graham Thurlwell" wrote ...

>> Wish they'd spend all thier time working on a decent campaign system
>> that actually uses all the planes in the set............oh well
>
> Do you mean you wanted more flyables? I assume that you know that not
> all planes were used in all theatres ?).

I know that well, which is what I'm moaning about. How about an RAF or
USAAF campaign in Western Europe? The planes are there, plenty of Spits,
Tempests, Mossies, P47s and 51s and more. The maps are there so why cant
they spend abit of time including even the basic campaign engine? It cant
be that hard for a programmer to do.
And imagine an IL2 campaign even something like that in F4

On the 4 Oct 2009, "rob" <roball.TakeThisOut@xtranope.co.nz> wrote:

> "Graham Thurlwell" wrote ...

>>> Wish they'd spend all thier time working on a decent campaign system
>>> that actually uses all the planes in the set............oh well
>>
>> Do you mean you wanted more flyables? I assume that you know that not
>> all planes were used in all theatres ?).

> I know that well, which is what I'm moaning about. How about an RAF or
> USAAF campaign in Western Europe?

That's what their next new game is (can't remember the name ATM), so
they'd probably be wanting to keep all of that back for it. From the
looks of the 4.09m ReadMe, all of the new stuff is relevant to the
existing campaigns.

Interesting that there's quite a few Italian types (shame the Reggiane
Re 2000 isn't flyable) and I'll probably play about with the
ski-fitted Polikarpov I-16s when I get bored with smashing my Yak-1B
into a million bits on landing in my Normandie-Niemen save.

> The planes are there, plenty of Spits, Tempests, Mossies, P47s and 51s
> and more.

They often show up in the Russian campaigns as AI, either as
Soviet-piloted Lend-Lease jobs or in the Berlin endgame piloted by
Americans or British - you'll hear the radio chatter and, if you've
enabled external views in your difficulty settings, you can watch
them.

On 4.08m, I've encountered Russian P47s in my Finnish career, and am
fairly sure I've seen American P51s on my Russian Leningrad Fighter
career on the Berlin map.

I haven't looked at all of the campaigns in 4.08m, so can't really
comment on exactly where or if all of them show up in them as actually
flyable.

> The maps are there so why cant they spend abit of time including even
> the basic campaign engine? It cant be that hard for a programmer to
> do.

At some point they need to be paid, and the way to do that is bring
out a new game...

> And imagine an IL2 campaign even something like that in F4

I really should get round to installing and playing F4AF. TBH, I'm a
little afraid of it and am spending a lot of time on '46.

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On 2009-10-02, rob <roball RemoveThis @xtranope.co.nz> wrote:
> Big woop, more planes I've never heard of. Wish they'd spend all thier time
> working on a decent campaign system that actually uses all the planes in the
> set............oh well

The only thing that would get me flying IL2 is for the attrocious
ground object popup to be fixed. It just spoils all A2G (my favourite
mission type) for me to not be able to see a huge target like a bridge
before I'm on top of it.

"rob" <roball RemoveThis @xtranope.co.nz> wrote in news:ha5rjd$1p0$1@aioe.org:

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>
>
> Big woop, more planes I've never heard of. Wish they'd spend all
> thier time working on a decent campaign system that actually uses all
> the planes in the set............oh well
>
>


Personally I would settle for a decent WWI sim.

One that does not require you to be wired into
a server to play it, for starters.........

Like Over Flanders Field: Between Heaven and Hell?

>On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:46:41 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noemail DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>"rob" <roball DeleteThis @xtranope.co.nz> wrote in news:ha5rjd$1p0$1@aioe.org:
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>>
>>
>> Big woop, more planes I've never heard of. Wish they'd spend all
>> thier time working on a decent campaign system that actually uses all
>> the planes in the set............oh well
>>
>>
>
>
> Personally I would settle for a decent WWI sim.
>
> One that does not require you to be wired into
>a server to play it, for starters.........
>
>

GaryR <GaryR DeleteThis @nospamforme.com> wrote in
news:ms40g591r0cq097djqocit42upgkj3532i@4ax.com:

> Like Over Flanders Field: Between Heaven and Hell?


Never heard of it.

But I will look around. I was about to buy
Rise of Flight until I saw the "must be online
to play" requirement even for stand-alone missions.

Bizarre.




>
>>On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:46:41 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>><noemail DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote: "rob" <roball DeleteThis @xtranope.co.nz> wrote in
>>news:ha5rjd$1p0$1@aioe.org:
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Big woop, more planes I've never heard of. Wish they'd spend all
>>> thier time working on a decent campaign system that actually uses
>>> all the planes in the set............oh well
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Personally I would settle for a decent WWI sim.
>>
>> One that does not require you to be wired into
>>a server to play it, for starters.........
>>
>>
>
>

http://www.overflandersfields.com/

You need a copy of MS Combat Flight Sim 3 (i'll ship you a new DVD for
$10 total as I have spares) and the game. It's ok online, but the
campaign is done quite well with a very good immersion factor..

The OFF dedicated forums are here -
http://forum.combatace.com/forum/204-off-general-discussion/

Take a look.
GR

>On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:38:57 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noemail RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:

>GaryR <GaryR RemoveThis @nospamforme.com> wrote in
>news:ms40g591r0cq097djqocit42upgkj3532i@4ax.com:
>
>> Like Over Flanders Field: Between Heaven and Hell?
>
>
> Never heard of it.
>
> But I will look around. I was about to buy
>Rise of Flight until I saw the "must be online
>to play" requirement even for stand-alone missions.
>
> Bizarre.

I should also mention the "upcoming" IL2 add-on, which will be
excellent multiplayer (as IL2 always has been VG) called "Canvas
Knights". Info on it here -
http://allaircraftarcade.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=91

Not holding my breath for the release anytime soon though..

GR

>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:54:53 -0500, GaryR <GaryR.TakeThisOut@nospamforme.com> wrote:
>http://www.overflandersfields.com/
>
>You need a copy of MS Combat Flight Sim 3 (i'll ship you a new DVD for
>$10 total as I have spares) and the game. It's ok online, but the
>campaign is done quite well with a very good immersion factor..
>
>The OFF dedicated forums are here -
>http://forum.combatace.com/forum/204-off-general-discussion/
>
>Take a look.
>GR
>
>>On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:38:57 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noemail.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>GaryR <GaryR.TakeThisOut@nospamforme.com> wrote in
>>news:ms40g591r0cq097djqocit42upgkj3532i@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Like Over Flanders Field: Between Heaven and Hell?
>>
>>
>> Never heard of it.
>>
>> But I will look around. I was about to buy
>>Rise of Flight until I saw the "must be online
>>to play" requirement even for stand-alone missions.
>>
>> Bizarre.

GaryR wrote:

> You need a copy of MS Combat Flight Sim 3 (i'll ship you a new DVD for
> $10 total as I have spares) and the game.

Why would you have spares of a game that was panned by the community?

Because I needed a copy for OFF and as they were $5 each and $5
shipping (for 1-3 copies) I said screw it and bought 3 copies.. I
can't stand the CFS3 game but OFF is quite another story.

GR


>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:06:15 -0800, "Wile E. Coyote" <coyote.DeleteThis@ACME.invalid> wrote:
>GaryR wrote:
>
>> You need a copy of MS Combat Flight Sim 3 (i'll ship you a new DVD for
>> $10 total as I have spares) and the game.
>
>Why would you have spares of a game that was panned by the community?

GaryR wrote:
> Because I needed a copy for OFF and as they were $5 each and $5
> shipping (for 1-3 copies) I said screw it and bought 3 copies.. I
> can't stand the CFS3 game but OFF is quite another story.
>
> GR

There's a massive mod for CFS3 called ETO that makes it worth playing.
Another one called MAW that people say is good but I have never tried
that one.

http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS3_mods

"Wile E. Coyote" <coyote.DeleteThis@ACME.invalid> wrote in news:NsDMm.52271$gg6.12853
@newsfe25.iad:

> GaryR wrote:
>> Because I needed a copy for OFF and as they were $5 each and $5
>> shipping (for 1-3 copies) I said screw it and bought 3 copies.. I
>> can't stand the CFS3 game but OFF is quite another story.
>>
>> GR
>
> There's a massive mod for CFS3 called ETO that makes it worth playing.
> Another one called MAW that people say is good but I have never tried
> that one.
>
> http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS3_mods


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