|
Next: Quick hello
|
| Author |
Message |
External

Since: Oct 08, 2004 Posts: 979
|
(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:08 am
Post subject: Re: What IDIOT Came up with the Snake Trap? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>games>warcraft (more info?)
|
|
|
On 1 Feb, 08:53, Mark Neil Konrad <nos....DeleteThis@nospam.org> wrote:
> now i realise what happened.
> these hunters placed the trap and you had consecration (? is that the name
> of that pally aoe?) cast, thus engaging the snakes.
No, as I understand it, the snakes engage targets that aren't flagged
for PvP. You don't need to attack them for them to attack you but you
do need to attack them to be flagged. The natural reaction to being
attacked is to fight back so it works on most. Low level players
could even be killed by the snakes if they don't fight or run.
> your main is a rogue ? theres some cool thing you can do infront of
> zul'aman. sneak up to two horde dueling and wait til someone activates some
> kind of aoe during the duel. they will engage you doing that and then you
> can watch how the guards around zul'aman crush them
Is there something special about Zul'Aman? As I understand it AoE
will not normally attack players if you are not flagged for PvP.
steve.kaye |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |  |
External

Since: May 11, 2007 Posts: 6
|
(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:16 am
Post subject: Re: What IDIOT Came up with the Snake Trap? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Jan 31, 6:31 pm, "JohnR" <repro....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Aboo" <jhemph....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7e0927f3-ff9d-4f73-a96f-94c0ca73e4da@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jan 31, 1:49 pm, Tib <pats....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 31, 1:36 pm, lcpltom <lcpl....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Jan 31, 2:30 pm, Tib <pats....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > Why should it flag at all. It's a trap, not a pet. And the snakes do
> >> > > kill low-level characters who are not flagged.
>
> >> > There are a lot more rules as far as PvP griefing on PvE servers, did
> >> > you try reporting him?
>
> >> No...I didn't report him. It happened to me on a Pally-alt. I saw the
> >> two 70 tauren hunters standing there, and was intending to ignore
> >> them, but I was busy fighting 2 ogres (I'm hedgehog build, so no
> >> problem) and I did not realize snakes had even engaged the snakes
> >> before they killed my and I saw my PVP flag had come on. The hunters
> >> killed me, not the snakes, but they were damaging me.
>
> >> I logged out and onto my rogue and caught up with them raiding rebel
> >> camp. I killed one, and then it turned into a big us versus them and
> >> their friends at sentinel hill.
>
> >> I have other family members who this has happened to since, and it is
> >> my understanding that they did report it. No word on any response yet.
>
> > Umm, the snakes don't chase you that far, just jog off a bit and don't
> > hit them.
>
> > Although I could see how a lvl 70's snake trap might take down a low
> > level character fairly quickly...
>
> If you're a Paladin dropping consecrations won't this trigger pvp or a Mage
> mid AoE or whatever? Or even passive dmg shields? If aoe or dmg shields do
> damage to them and trigger pvp flag I'd have to say it would be impossible
> to avoid unless you were expecting it and very ready.
In my case this is not true. Not all Paladins are created equally. I
am a hedghog/protection build which means I am specced fmor melee...I
gain health from being hit in melee as well as by my own melee
attacks. AoE does not result in these heals ans so, at least when I am
soloing, I choose melee targets and use melee attacks..not AoE. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |  |
External

Since: Dec 22, 2005 Posts: 4219
|
(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:26 am
Post subject: Re: What IDIOT Came up with the Snake Trap? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 00:31:32 -0000, "JohnR" <repro007 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Aboo" <jhemphill DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7e0927f3-ff9d-4f73-a96f-94c0ca73e4da@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 31, 1:49 pm, Tib <pats... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 31, 1:36 pm, lcpltom <lcpl... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Jan 31, 2:30 pm, Tib <pats... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > Why should it flag at all. It's a trap, not a pet. And the snakes do
>>> > > kill low-level characters who are not flagged.
>>>
>>> > There are a lot more rules as far as PvP griefing on PvE servers, did
>>> > you try reporting him?
>>>
>>> No...I didn't report him. It happened to me on a Pally-alt. I saw the
>>> two 70 tauren hunters standing there, and was intending to ignore
>>> them, but I was busy fighting 2 ogres (I'm hedgehog build, so no
>>> problem) and I did not realize snakes had even engaged the snakes
>>> before they killed my and I saw my PVP flag had come on. The hunters
>>> killed me, not the snakes, but they were damaging me.
>>>
>>> I logged out and onto my rogue and caught up with them raiding rebel
>>> camp. I killed one, and then it turned into a big us versus them and
>>> their friends at sentinel hill.
>>>
>>> I have other family members who this has happened to since, and it is
>>> my understanding that they did report it. No word on any response yet.
>>
>>
>> Umm, the snakes don't chase you that far, just jog off a bit and don't
>> hit them.
>>
>> Although I could see how a lvl 70's snake trap might take down a low
>> level character fairly quickly...
>>
>If you're a Paladin dropping consecrations won't this trigger pvp or a Mage
>mid AoE or whatever? Or even passive dmg shields? If aoe or dmg shields do
>damage to them and trigger pvp flag I'd have to say it would be impossible
>to avoid unless you were expecting it and very ready.
As long as the snakes work like players, you can't get flagged from aoeing
- it just doesn't hit a flagged player unless you're flagged as well. Think
that was added in the early days of WoW to prevent griefing by standing in
somebody's aoe
--
EU-Draenor:
Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 70)
Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 60)
Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 60)
Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
Cathach - Gnome Warrior (lvl 30) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |  |
External

Since: Aug 21, 2007 Posts: 111
|
(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:53 am
Post subject: Re: What IDIOT Came up with the Snake Trap? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:49:38 -0800 (PST), Tib wrote:
> On Jan 31, 1:36 pm, lcpltom <lcpl... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 31, 2:30 pm, Tib <pats... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Why should it flag at all. It's a trap, not a pet. And the snakes do
>>> kill low-level characters who are not flagged.
>>
>> There are a lot more rules as far as PvP griefing on PvE servers, did
>> you try reporting him?
>
> No...I didn't report him. It happened to me on a Pally-alt. I saw the
> two 70 tauren hunters standing there, and was intending to ignore
> them, but I was busy fighting 2 ogres (I'm hedgehog build, so no
> problem) and I did not realize snakes had even engaged the snakes
> before they killed my and I saw my PVP flag had come on. The hunters
> killed me, not the snakes, but they were damaging me.
>
> I logged out and onto my rogue and caught up with them raiding rebel
> camp. I killed one, and then it turned into a big us versus them and
> their friends at sentinel hill.
>
> I have other family members who this has happened to since, and it is
> my understanding that they did report it. No word on any response yet.
now i realise what happened.
these hunters placed the trap and you had consecration (? is that the name
of that pally aoe?) cast, thus engaging the snakes.
you shouldn't have done that
your main is a rogue ? theres some cool thing you can do infront of
zul'aman. sneak up to two horde dueling and wait til someone activates some
kind of aoe during the duel. they will engage you doing that and then you
can watch how the guards around zul'aman crush them
--
regards
Mark
=========================
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=arthas&n=yaelle |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |  |
External

Since: Aug 21, 2007 Posts: 111
|
(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:18 am
Post subject: Re: What IDIOT Came up with the Snake Trap? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 01:08:58 -0800 (PST), steve.kaye wrote:
> On 1 Feb, 08:53, Mark Neil Konrad <nos....TakeThisOut@nospam.org> wrote:
>
>> now i realise what happened.
>> these hunters placed the trap and you had consecration (? is that the name
>> of that pally aoe?) cast, thus engaging the snakes.
>
> No, as I understand it, the snakes engage targets that aren't flagged
> for PvP. You don't need to attack them for them to attack you but you
> do need to attack them to be flagged. The natural reaction to being
> attacked is to fight back so it works on most. Low level players
> could even be killed by the snakes if they don't fight or run.
>
>
>> your main is a rogue ? theres some cool thing you can do infront of
>> zul'aman. sneak up to two horde dueling and wait til someone activates some
>> kind of aoe during the duel. they will engage you doing that and then you
>> can watch how the guards around zul'aman crush them
>
> Is there something special about Zul'Aman? As I understand it AoE
> will not normally attack players if you are not flagged for PvP.
>
> steve.kaye
alright on pve you would have to flag yourself first
--
regards
Mark
=========================
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=arthas&n=yaelle |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |  |
External

Since: Oct 26, 2005 Posts: 696
|
(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:30 am
Post subject: Re: What IDIOT Came up with the Snake Trap? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
"Catriona R" <catrionarNOSPAM.DeleteThis@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mrl5q39cd6nk1rrf6s6np3i6ci9ktq7d5b@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 00:31:32 -0000, "JohnR" <repro007.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Aboo" <jhemphill.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:7e0927f3-ff9d-4f73-a96f-94c0ca73e4da@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jan 31, 1:49 pm, Tib <pats....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 31, 1:36 pm, lcpltom <lcpl....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Jan 31, 2:30 pm, Tib <pats....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > Why should it flag at all. It's a trap, not a pet. And the snakes
>>>> > > do
>>>> > > kill low-level characters who are not flagged.
>>>>
>>>> > There are a lot more rules as far as PvP griefing on PvE servers, did
>>>> > you try reporting him?
>>>>
>>>> No...I didn't report him. It happened to me on a Pally-alt. I saw the
>>>> two 70 tauren hunters standing there, and was intending to ignore
>>>> them, but I was busy fighting 2 ogres (I'm hedgehog build, so no
>>>> problem) and I did not realize snakes had even engaged the snakes
>>>> before they killed my and I saw my PVP flag had come on. The hunters
>>>> killed me, not the snakes, but they were damaging me.
>>>>
>>>> I logged out and onto my rogue and caught up with them raiding rebel
>>>> camp. I killed one, and then it turned into a big us versus them and
>>>> their friends at sentinel hill.
>>>>
>>>> I have other family members who this has happened to since, and it is
>>>> my understanding that they did report it. No word on any response yet.
>>>
>>>
>>> Umm, the snakes don't chase you that far, just jog off a bit and don't
>>> hit them.
>>>
>>> Although I could see how a lvl 70's snake trap might take down a low
>>> level character fairly quickly...
>>>
>>If you're a Paladin dropping consecrations won't this trigger pvp or a
>>Mage
>>mid AoE or whatever? Or even passive dmg shields? If aoe or dmg shields do
>>damage to them and trigger pvp flag I'd have to say it would be impossible
>>to avoid unless you were expecting it and very ready.
>
> As long as the snakes work like players, you can't get flagged from aoeing
> - it just doesn't hit a flagged player unless you're flagged as well.
> Think
> that was added in the early days of WoW to prevent griefing by standing in
> somebody's aoe
>
Yep, being a victim of that in the dim and distant past duelling some
alliance dude who's buddy decided to even up the match by flagging pvp and
jumping into the AoE. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |  |
External

Since: Oct 26, 2005 Posts: 696
|
(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:31 am
Post subject: Re: What IDIOT Came up with the Snake Trap? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
"Mark Neil Konrad" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:8wk9hew7ry75.bmu17llccqxb.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:49:38 -0800 (PST), Tib wrote:
>
>> On Jan 31, 1:36 pm, lcpltom <lcpl....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 31, 2:30 pm, Tib <pats....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why should it flag at all. It's a trap, not a pet. And the snakes do
>>>> kill low-level characters who are not flagged.
>>>
>>> There are a lot more rules as far as PvP griefing on PvE servers, did
>>> you try reporting him?
>>
>> No...I didn't report him. It happened to me on a Pally-alt. I saw the
>> two 70 tauren hunters standing there, and was intending to ignore
>> them, but I was busy fighting 2 ogres (I'm hedgehog build, so no
>> problem) and I did not realize snakes had even engaged the snakes
>> before they killed my and I saw my PVP flag had come on. The hunters
>> killed me, not the snakes, but they were damaging me.
>>
>> I logged out and onto my rogue and caught up with them raiding rebel
>> camp. I killed one, and then it turned into a big us versus them and
>> their friends at sentinel hill.
>>
>> I have other family members who this has happened to since, and it is
>> my understanding that they did report it. No word on any response yet.
>
> now i realise what happened.
> these hunters placed the trap and you had consecration (? is that the name
> of that pally aoe?) cast, thus engaging the snakes.
>
> you shouldn't have done that
>
> your main is a rogue ? theres some cool thing you can do infront of
> zul'aman. sneak up to two horde dueling and wait til someone activates
> some
> kind of aoe during the duel. they will engage you doing that and then you
> can watch how the guards around zul'aman crush them
>
Oh I bet you feel the big man after a stunt like that. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |  |
External

Since: Aug 21, 2007 Posts: 111
|
(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:57 am
Post subject: Re: What IDIOT Came up with the Snake Trap? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:31:08 -0000, JohnR wrote:
> "Mark Neil Konrad" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.org> wrote in message
> news:8wk9hew7ry75.bmu17llccqxb.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:49:38 -0800 (PST), Tib wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 31, 1:36 pm, lcpltom <lcpl....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 31, 2:30 pm, Tib <pats....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why should it flag at all. It's a trap, not a pet. And the snakes do
>>>>> kill low-level characters who are not flagged.
>>>>
>>>> There are a lot more rules as far as PvP griefing on PvE servers, did
>>>> you try reporting him?
>>>
>>> No...I didn't report him. It happened to me on a Pally-alt. I saw the
>>> two 70 tauren hunters standing there, and was intending to ignore
>>> them, but I was busy fighting 2 ogres (I'm hedgehog build, so no
>>> problem) and I did not realize snakes had even engaged the snakes
>>> before they killed my and I saw my PVP flag had come on. The hunters
>>> killed me, not the snakes, but they were damaging me.
>>>
>>> I logged out and onto my rogue and caught up with them raiding rebel
>>> camp. I killed one, and then it turned into a big us versus them and
>>> their friends at sentinel hill.
>>>
>>> I have other family members who this has happened to since, and it is
>>> my understanding that they did report it. No word on any response yet.
>>
>> now i realise what happened.
>> these hunters placed the trap and you had consecration (? is that the name
>> of that pally aoe?) cast, thus engaging the snakes.
>>
>> you shouldn't have done that
>>
>> your main is a rogue ? theres some cool thing you can do infront of
>> zul'aman. sneak up to two horde dueling and wait til someone activates
>> some
>> kind of aoe during the duel. they will engage you doing that and then you
>> can watch how the guards around zul'aman crush them
>>
> Oh I bet you feel the big man after a stunt like that.
well whats this fuss about anyway ? there's no death penalty in wow anyway.
you cannot loot anyone else, no experience loss. and yet this incident that
happened to someone once in a wow lifetime is worth mentioning. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |  |
External

Since: Jan 24, 2007 Posts: 703
|
(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:51 am
Post subject: Re: What IDIOT Came up with the Snake Trap? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
MNK> well whats this fuss about anyway ? there's no death penalty in wow
MNK> anyway.
I would like to know too.. People from PVE servers get ganked once and they
make soooo big drama out of it like it's the end of the world, talking about
how they logged out immediatly and angry and it ruined wow etc...
Seriously there is no penality at all and if you are on pve server just wait
5 min and continue what's the problem? Immagine to be on pvp server getting
corpsecamped for 1 hour and when you complain in general you get "QQ more
n00b". |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |  |
| Related Topics: | I met the idiot of the year - First of all I want to make clear that I never leeched a BG ever (I even have anti leecher addon and I wrote posts about it here..)! Ok so yesterday I did some BG with my mage before 20.00, then I was invited into a heroic. We did Underbog and Mechanar...
Fresh harvest on the idiot farm - So i have some green quests for RFC to do on my lvl 20 undead rogue toon, and get hooked up with 3 other folks who seem rational and have their wits about them. Well, i was wrong *sigh*, but 2 out of 3 ain't bad ; ) There was a Tauren Shaman with us, m...
First encounter with high level idiot - I knew the phenomenon exsited but I had never seen it before. Me and a friend were doing the Warrior quest out on Affray Island by Ratchet. It was his turn to do the battle thing on the grate where you fight a few thugs in a row. Sort of feels like a....
Hunter Ice Trap - I just started playing a hunter a couple of weeks ago, and there's one thing I haven't figured out; on my other character I've seen hunters lay ice traps down after combat is initiated by feigning death. I see this used to great effect especially during...
drop trap in combat? - Hey all, In pvp battles I sometimes see a hunter fight melee, drop out of combat, put a trap down and take some distance as his target steps on the trap to continue fighting ranged. How does this work? How do you leave combat mode while being.. |
|
You can post new topics in this forum You can reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
|
|