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Since: Oct 30, 2007 Posts: 240
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:54 am
Post subject: Higher Alchemy Transmute Formulas and Reputation Archived from groups: alt>games>warcraft (more info?)
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I see several transmute formulas in the outlands that appear to only
be available by attainment of reputation. I'm not sure how important
these are. Most of them require Revered. My understanding is that
Primal Might is the real biggie. Motes seem to be available by
grinding and I would guess that even to do the transmutes one would
have to grind in order to obtain the motes that one would transmute
and therefore why transmute, just grind for the motes that one needs
and then transmute the primals to a Primal Might.
Now if Primal Might is the top dog and, what ddoes it take? One primal
of each of the others to make Primal Might? So is it that important to
work towards Reverd to get the formulas? Perhaps nto work steadily
towards it but keep running some instances. or rather grind instances
and eventually one would et the formulas it seems.
Orion |
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Since: Oct 30, 2007 Posts: 1002
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:24 am
Post subject: Re: Higher Alchemy Transmute Formulas and Reputation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Jun 13, 9:54 am, Orion Ryder <orionry... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> I see several transmute formulas in the outlands that appear to only
> be available by attainment of reputation. I'm not sure how important
> these are. Most of them require Revered. My understanding is that
> Primal Might is the real biggie. Motes seem to be available by
> grinding and I would guess that even to do the transmutes one would
> have to grind in order to obtain the motes that one would transmute
> and therefore why transmute, just grind for the motes that one needs
> and then transmute the primals to a Primal Might.
>
> Now if Primal Might is the top dog and, what ddoes it take? One primal
> of each of the others to make Primal Might? So is it that important to
> work towards Reverd to get the formulas? Perhaps nto work steadily
> towards it but keep running some instances. or rather grind instances
> and eventually one would et the formulas it seems.
>
> Orion
Well theres always the issue of some motes are harder to obtain than
others.
The drop rate on Motes of Wind in Nagrand fell off the face of the
earth when they added in Essences in Outland. I don't know what
transmutes are available to transmute one primal into Primal Wind, but
that might be useful.
Primal Mights are only obtainable through transmutes, so getting that
transmute is key if you want to make money from alchemy. I always see
people WTB Primal Might transmute in the trade channel.
As for any rep items, look at the item and make a decision if you need
it or not. Also, at level 68, with an alchemy skill of 350, you can
specialize. I would suggest getting any alchemy recipes that are part
of your specialization. Not necessary, but increases the chances of
creating items that give you more than one product.
In any case, I would strive to at least get every recipe in the game,
especially if its as easy as an Outland rep grind to get. If you want
to run Heroic dungeons you'll be grinding to exalted anyway (I think
its revered for the key, but if you start running the heroics you will
surely reach exalted). You never know when someone might want some
obscure potion/elixir/transmute. |
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Since: Jun 05, 2007 Posts: 52
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:22 am
Post subject: Re: Higher Alchemy Transmute Formulas and Reputation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Jun 13, 10:56 am, John Gordon <gor....RemoveThis@panix.com> wrote:
> In <1181742850.432580.165....RemoveThis@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com> Orion Ryder <orionry....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> writes:
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> > My understanding is that Primal Might is the real biggie.
>
> Yes. Lots of high-end crafted items require one or more Mights, thus
> there is a constant demand.
>
> > Now if Primal Might is the top dog and, what ddoes it take? One primal
> > of each of the others to make Primal Might?
>
> Air, Water, Fire, Earth and Mana. (One of everything *except* Life and
> Shadow.)
>
Check your Auction House. On the server I play on Primal Might usually
sells for less than what selling all the components would. If that is
also the case on your server, I think you would want to get the recipe
for Primal Might eventually, but I wouldn't go out of my way to grind
the rep for it.
Later,
~Rehlow |
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Since: Jun 21, 2007 Posts: 52
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:33 am
Post subject: Re: Higher Alchemy Transmute Formulas and Reputation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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>To Oryon: I believe there is a transmute from Shadow to Water. That would
>tend to be a money maker, I think. However, I am not sure how it is obtained
>(world drop, discovery or rep reward).
I got this as a discovery xmute. Yea, it's a nice money maker.
Partly because during the grind to exalted with Aldor, I got about 40
primal shadows. Those only sell for a few gold where as the primal
waters sell for 20, give or take a couple. I don't really play with
that toon anymore (started a priest) but I still log in most days just
to do that shadow->water transmute.
Prior to getting this discovery, I was doing primal might xmutes.
Problem is I really got sick of collecting the 5 primals (Earth, Air,
Fire, Mana, Water). Once I got my epic flyer I just couldn't see
farming motes anymore, too much like work.
On a humorous note, earlier this week I had another transmute
discovery... Primal Water to Primal Shadow. duh |
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Since: Jan 02, 2006 Posts: 1532
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Higher Alchemy Transmute Formulas and Reputation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:24:09 -0700, lcpltom wrote:
> On Jun 13, 9:54 am, Orion Ryder <orionry... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I see several transmute formulas in the outlands that appear to only
> > be available by attainment of reputation. I'm not sure how important
> > these are. Most of them require Revered. My understanding is that
> > Primal Might is the real biggie. Motes seem to be available by
> > grinding and I would guess that even to do the transmutes one would
> > have to grind in order to obtain the motes that one would transmute
> > and therefore why transmute, just grind for the motes that one needs
> > and then transmute the primals to a Primal Might.
> >
> > Now if Primal Might is the top dog and, what ddoes it take? One primal
> > of each of the others to make Primal Might? So is it that important to
> > work towards Reverd to get the formulas? Perhaps nto work steadily
> > towards it but keep running some instances. or rather grind instances
> > and eventually one would et the formulas it seems.
> >
> > Orion
>
> Well theres always the issue of some motes are harder to obtain than
> others.
True.
For me the easy ones are:
- Life (gotten off herbalism)
- Earth (gotten off mining)
- Shadow (used to drop off any demon, now only void - not needed for Might,
though)
A bit harder:
- Fire (need to kill fire elementals, there aren't so many and they are
heavily farmed, luckily, they often seem to drop off mining, as well)
- Air (need to kill air elementals, there are more of those, so it's not
quite as bad as fire)
- Mana (need to kill certain mobs in Netherstorm, not too farmed, I found)
- Water (need to kill water elementals, heavily farmed; or fish, for which
my skill is too low and my patience lacking)
> The drop rate on Motes of Wind in Nagrand fell off the face of the
> earth when they added in Essences in Outland.
I have seen a blue post on the forums where it is stated, that "essence
drops" do not replace "mote drops" but that they were added.
I have no data to confirm or contradict. Has anyone gotten a kill where both
a mote *AND* an essence dropped? That would be more or less proof of that
statement...
To Oryon: I believe there is a transmute from Shadow to Water. That would
tend to be a money maker, I think. However, I am not sure how it is obtained
(world drop, discovery or rep reward).
Cheers
Urbin
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Since: Mar 31, 2004 Posts: 960
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Higher Alchemy Transmute Formulas and Reputation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:22:59 -0700, Rehlow <newsgroup.DeleteThis@rehlow.com>
wrote:
>On Jun 13, 10:56 am, John Gordon <gor....DeleteThis@panix.com> wrote:
>> In <1181742850.432580.165....DeleteThis@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com> Orion Ryder <orionry....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > My understanding is that Primal Might is the real biggie.
>>
>> Yes. Lots of high-end crafted items require one or more Mights, thus
>> there is a constant demand.
>>
>> > Now if Primal Might is the top dog and, what ddoes it take? One primal
>> > of each of the others to make Primal Might?
>>
>> Air, Water, Fire, Earth and Mana. (One of everything *except* Life and
>> Shadow.)
>>
>
>Check your Auction House. On the server I play on Primal Might usually
>sells for less than what selling all the components would. If that is
>also the case on your server, I think you would want to get the recipe
>for Primal Might eventually, but I wouldn't go out of my way to grind
>the rep for it.
>
Primal might is one of the few transmutes that doesn't require any rep
grind.
Rgds, Frank |
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Since: Nov 13, 2003 Posts: 1361
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Higher Alchemy Transmute Formulas and Reputation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In <1181742850.432580.165170 DeleteThis @q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com> Orion Ryder <orionryder DeleteThis @hotmail.com> writes:
> My understanding is that Primal Might is the real biggie.
Yes. Lots of high-end crafted items require one or more Mights, thus
there is a constant demand.
> Now if Primal Might is the top dog and, what ddoes it take? One primal
> of each of the others to make Primal Might?
Air, Water, Fire, Earth and Mana. (One of everything *except* Life and
Shadow.)
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Since: Aug 23, 2006 Posts: 27
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:00 am
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"Urbin" <urbin.RemoveThis@dunmorogh.eu> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:slrnf700im.bhp.urbin@stinky.trash.net...
> To Oryon: I believe there is a transmute from Shadow to Water. That would
> tend to be a money maker, I think. However, I am not sure how it is
> obtained
> (world drop, discovery or rep reward).
Haven´t seen that one, but Earth -> Water is a real monymaker ...
Obtained through reputaion with the sporegar.
Kai |
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Since: Jan 11, 2007 Posts: 184
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Higher Alchemy Transmute Formulas and Reputation [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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lcpltom wrote:
> Primal Mights are only obtainable through transmutes, so getting that
> transmute is key if you want to make money from alchemy. I always see
> people WTB Primal Might transmute in the trade channel.
I have better things to do than farm motes so I only sell the
transmuting service. Not that it is much of a money-maker, on my
server the standard fee is ~5g (and the transmute has a 23h cooldown)
so lately I've been transmuting Arcanite with my own mats instead,
which is slightly more profitable. Speaking of which, Arcane crystals
is one item that really has dropped in value post-BC. Nowadays they
can be bought for 60-80s when they used to go for 12-15g. :-O
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