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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:05 pm
Post subject: HDTV recommendations please!
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If you could choose any ~42" HDTV, which would you choose?
I dropped into Comet/PC World today and had a look around. 42" looks
like the right size for me (big enough to be impressive without being
willy-compensating!).
The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
noise.
The LGs all had a cheapo tupperware feel to them, the Samsungs felt
pretty good, and the Panasonics all had really nice build quality.
I couldn't side-by-side compare 1080p with any of the lower options
but it seems to make sense to go for higher res.. it makes a big
difference in the PC gaming arena and I don't see why it would be
different on a telly.
I'm also concerned about how my SD hardware will look, namely Jag, DC,
Wii, ST, DVD.
Would love to hear some recommendations!
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:05 pm
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On Dec 29, 6:07 pm, Zomoniac <the_proper_....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-12-29 17:05:19 +0000, Toby Newman <goo....DeleteThis@asktoby.com> said:
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> > If you could choose any ~42" HDTV, which would you choose?
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> > I dropped into Comet/PC World today and had a look around. 42" looks
> > like the right size for me (big enough to be impressive without being
> > willy-compensating!).
>
> > The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
> > noise.
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> > The LGs all had a cheapo tupperware feel to them, the Samsungs felt
> > pretty good, and the Panasonics all had really nice build quality.
>
> > I couldn't side-by-side compare 1080p with any of the lower options
> > but it seems to make sense to go for higher res.. it makes a big
> > difference in the PC gaming arena and I don't see why it would be
> > different on a telly.
>
> > I'm also concerned about how my SD hardware will look, namely Jag, DC,
> > Wii, ST, DVD.
>
> > Would love to hear some recommendations!
>
> I have a year-and-a-bit-old Toshiba 42X3030D 1080p which will probably
> set you back around £50 these days. I love it very much.
>
I also have the 42X3030D and it has treated me well over the past
year. I got it because you said it was good!
Probably gonna replace it next year though (well demote it to a
different room). I cant even imagine the prices of large screens by
January 2010. Even the price difference between now and a year ago is
astronomical.
So yeah its another recommendation for the 42X3030D if you can find
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:24 pm
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Toby Newman wrote:
> If you could choose any ~42" HDTV, which would you choose?
>
> I dropped into Comet/PC World today and had a look around. 42" looks
> like the right size for me (big enough to be impressive without being
> willy-compensating!).
>
> The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
> noise.
>
> The LGs all had a cheapo tupperware feel to them, the Samsungs felt
> pretty good, and the Panasonics all had really nice build quality.
>
> I couldn't side-by-side compare 1080p with any of the lower options
> but it seems to make sense to go for higher res.. it makes a big
> difference in the PC gaming arena and I don't see why it would be
> different on a telly.
>
> I'm also concerned about how my SD hardware will look, namely Jag, DC,
> Wii, ST, DVD.
>
> Would love to hear some recommendations!
>
Basically, people will recommend what they have. I have a couple of
Toshiba LCDs that I'm happy with and I never really put that much
research into their purchase - hell my latest one I bought primarily
because it had a very small bezel which was important to me due to it
being 46" and at the very upper limit of what I could fit in my sitting
room. It's not half bad all things considered - I suppose it depends on
how anal you're prepared to be about scan frequencies, dynamic contrast
ratios and whether it can handle 24fps for true movie playback, etc - to
me, it just feels like the usual law of diminishing returns.
Thing is, the market moves so rapidly that there seems to be a newer
better version of whatever model you're looking at six months later. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:28 pm
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"Toby Newman" <google.TakeThisOut@asktoby.com> wrote in message
news:slrngli0qf.1c8.google@ID-171443.user.uni-berlin.de...
> The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
> noise.
FWIW, I've had a Panasonic plasma for about a year, and I've never noticed
it making any noise. I can hear a bit of a buzzing if I stick my ear up to
the back (same as with a CRT), but that's about it. I prefer the look of a
plasma screen compared to LCD, and I'm really happy with my set. I've not
got any burn in or anything like that, but you can get a bit of image
retention with game HUDs if you play for a very long time (though it clears
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:07 pm
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On 2008-12-29 17:05:19 +0000, Toby Newman <google.TakeThisOut@asktoby.com> said:
> If you could choose any ~42" HDTV, which would you choose?
>
> I dropped into Comet/PC World today and had a look around. 42" looks
> like the right size for me (big enough to be impressive without being
> willy-compensating!).
>
> The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
> noise.
>
> The LGs all had a cheapo tupperware feel to them, the Samsungs felt
> pretty good, and the Panasonics all had really nice build quality.
>
> I couldn't side-by-side compare 1080p with any of the lower options
> but it seems to make sense to go for higher res.. it makes a big
> difference in the PC gaming arena and I don't see why it would be
> different on a telly.
>
> I'm also concerned about how my SD hardware will look, namely Jag, DC,
> Wii, ST, DVD.
>
> Would love to hear some recommendations!
I have a year-and-a-bit-old Toshiba 42X3030D 1080p which will probably
set you back around £50 these days. I love it very much.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:41 pm
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On 2008-12-29, James Sutherland <james RemoveThis @guybrush.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> "Toby Newman" <google RemoveThis @asktoby.com> wrote in message
> news:slrngli0qf.1c8.google@ID-171443.user.uni-berlin.de...
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>> The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
>> noise.
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> FWIW, I've had a Panasonic plasma for about a year, and I've never noticed
> it making any noise. I can hear a bit of a buzzing if I stick my ear up to
> the back (same as with a CRT), but that's about it. I prefer the look of a
> plasma screen compared to LCD, and I'm really happy with my set. I've not
> got any burn in or anything like that, but you can get a bit of image
> retention with game HUDs if you play for a very long time (though it clears
> quite quickly).
That's really helpful, thanks. Which model? Get image retention ever?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:26 pm
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On 2008-12-29, Zomoniac <the_proper_one.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-12-29 17:05:19 +0000, Toby Newman <google.RemoveThis@asktoby.com> said:
>
>> If you could choose any ~42" HDTV, which would you choose?
>>
>> I dropped into Comet/PC World today and had a look around. 42" looks
>> like the right size for me (big enough to be impressive without being
>> willy-compensating!).
>>
>> The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
>> noise.
>>
>> The LGs all had a cheapo tupperware feel to them, the Samsungs felt
>> pretty good, and the Panasonics all had really nice build quality.
>>
>> I couldn't side-by-side compare 1080p with any of the lower options
>> but it seems to make sense to go for higher res.. it makes a big
>> difference in the PC gaming arena and I don't see why it would be
>> different on a telly.
>>
>> I'm also concerned about how my SD hardware will look, namely Jag, DC,
>> Wii, ST, DVD.
>>
>> Would love to hear some recommendations!
>
> I have a year-and-a-bit-old Toshiba 42X3030D 1080p which will probably
> set you back around £50 these days. I love it very much.
Does that have their "game mode" feature? These things make me
suspicious of the manufacturer's integrity, just like "rock" and
"jazz" settings do on hi fis.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:08 pm
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On 2008-12-29 20:26:10 +0000, Toby Newman <google.DeleteThis@asktoby.com> said:
> On 2008-12-29, Zomoniac <the_proper_one.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2008-12-29 17:05:19 +0000, Toby Newman <google.DeleteThis@asktoby.com> said:
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>>> If you could choose any ~42" HDTV, which would you choose?
>>>
>>> I dropped into Comet/PC World today and had a look around. 42" looks
>>> like the right size for me (big enough to be impressive without being
>>> willy-compensating!).
>>>
>>> The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
>>> noise.
>>>
>>> The LGs all had a cheapo tupperware feel to them, the Samsungs felt
>>> pretty good, and the Panasonics all had really nice build quality.
>>>
>>> I couldn't side-by-side compare 1080p with any of the lower options
>>> but it seems to make sense to go for higher res.. it makes a big
>>> difference in the PC gaming arena and I don't see why it would be
>>> different on a telly.
>>>
>>> I'm also concerned about how my SD hardware will look, namely Jag, DC,
>>> Wii, ST, DVD.
>>>
>>> Would love to hear some recommendations!
>>
>> I have a year-and-a-bit-old Toshiba 42X3030D 1080p which will probably
>> set you back around £50 these days. I love it very much.
>
> Does that have their "game mode" feature? These things make me
> suspicious of the manufacturer's integrity, just like "rock" and
> "jazz" settings do on hi fis.
No idea. If it does I don't use it. It's just a preset, what does it
matter? I don't care if hi-fis have rock and jazz EQ presets as long as
they allow manual configuration of the EQ as well.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:11 pm
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On 2008-12-29, Alastair Foster <unclechibi DeleteThis @btinternet.com> wrote:
> On Dec 29, 6:07 pm, Zomoniac <the_proper_... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2008-12-29 17:05:19 +0000, Toby Newman <goo... DeleteThis @asktoby.com> said:
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>> > If you could choose any ~42" HDTV, which would you choose?
>>
>> I have a year-and-a-bit-old Toshiba 42X3030D 1080p which will probably
>> set you back around £50 these days. I love it very much.
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> I also have the 42X3030D and it has treated me well over the past
> year. I got it because you said it was good!
>
> So yeah its another recommendation for the 42X3030D if you can find
> somewhere it somewhere cheap.
Toshiba's latest equivalent is the 42XV555DB Regza. I've added it to
my list!
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:14 pm
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On 2008-12-29, Zomoniac <the_proper_one.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-12-29 20:26:10 +0000, Toby Newman <google.RemoveThis@asktoby.com> said:
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>> On 2008-12-29, Zomoniac <the_proper_one.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2008-12-29 17:05:19 +0000, Toby Newman <google.RemoveThis@asktoby.com> said:
>>>
>>>> If you could choose any ~42" HDTV, which would you choose?
>>>>
>>>> I dropped into Comet/PC World today and had a look around. 42" looks
>>>> like the right size for me (big enough to be impressive without being
>>>> willy-compensating!).
>>>>
>>>> The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
>>>> noise.
>>>>
>>>> The LGs all had a cheapo tupperware feel to them, the Samsungs felt
>>>> pretty good, and the Panasonics all had really nice build quality.
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't side-by-side compare 1080p with any of the lower options
>>>> but it seems to make sense to go for higher res.. it makes a big
>>>> difference in the PC gaming arena and I don't see why it would be
>>>> different on a telly.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also concerned about how my SD hardware will look, namely Jag, DC,
>>>> Wii, ST, DVD.
>>>>
>>>> Would love to hear some recommendations!
>>>
>>> I have a year-and-a-bit-old Toshiba 42X3030D 1080p which will probably
>>> set you back around £50 these days. I love it very much.
>>
>> Does that have their "game mode" feature? These things make me
>> suspicious of the manufacturer's integrity, just like "rock" and
>> "jazz" settings do on hi fis.
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> No idea. If it does I don't use it. It's just a preset, what does it
> matter? I don't care if hi-fis have rock and jazz EQ presets as long as
> they allow manual configuration of the EQ as well.
I think of TVs as ideally transparently displaying the video
information in the source without imparting their own style or effects
on to them. There should be just one mode: Correct!
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:19 pm
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On 2008-12-29 21:14:59 +0000, Toby Newman <google.DeleteThis@asktoby.com> said:
> On 2008-12-29, Zomoniac <the_proper_one.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2008-12-29 20:26:10 +0000, Toby Newman <google.DeleteThis@asktoby.com> said:
>>
>>> On 2008-12-29, Zomoniac <the_proper_one.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2008-12-29 17:05:19 +0000, Toby Newman <google.DeleteThis@asktoby.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> If you could choose any ~42" HDTV, which would you choose?
>>>>>
>>>>> I dropped into Comet/PC World today and had a look around. 42" looks
>>>>> like the right size for me (big enough to be impressive without being
>>>>> willy-compensating!).
>>>>>
>>>>> The plasmas all looked much nicer than the LCDs, but I worry about fan
>>>>> noise.
>>>>>
>>>>> The LGs all had a cheapo tupperware feel to them, the Samsungs felt
>>>>> pretty good, and the Panasonics all had really nice build quality.
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't side-by-side compare 1080p with any of the lower options
>>>>> but it seems to make sense to go for higher res.. it makes a big
>>>>> difference in the PC gaming arena and I don't see why it would be
>>>>> different on a telly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also concerned about how my SD hardware will look, namely Jag, DC,
>>>>> Wii, ST, DVD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would love to hear some recommendations!
>>>>
>>>> I have a year-and-a-bit-old Toshiba 42X3030D 1080p which will probably
>>>> set you back around £50 these days. I love it very much.
>>>
>>> Does that have their "game mode" feature? These things make me
>>> suspicious of the manufacturer's integrity, just like "rock" and
>>> "jazz" settings do on hi fis.
>>
>> No idea. If it does I don't use it. It's just a preset, what does it
>> matter? I don't care if hi-fis have rock and jazz EQ presets as long as
>> they allow manual configuration of the EQ as well.
>
> I think of TVs as ideally transparently displaying the video
> information in the source without imparting their own style or effects
> on to them. There should be just one mode: Correct!
But that assumes all eyes to be the same. Some people are overly
sensitive to high levels of brightness. Some, like me, like high
brightness. Similarly I like my audio with a lot of top and bottom end,
with a slight cut if anything to the mids, from flat. Some people just
like it completely flat. It's because of this that I mix my recordings
through my actual stereo, pre-EQed the way I like it, because if I use
flat monitoring systems like one is supposed to, I have a tendency to
over-EQ everything, whereas if I make it sound just right on my stereo,
it sounds flat through everything else when it gets bounced. Not a
normal technique, but it works for me.
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