Free Time and skilling

Engram wrote:
> I have noticed that I cannot get anyone in any of my sims' houses to
> stay focused on skilling. Eg. they start looking through the
> telescope, gain science enthusiasm and walk away.

If they have maxed fun they seem to abandon it now. If it is the logic skill
you want chess is a better bet as mine will carry on playing that despite
maxed skill. Having your sim skill in something that drops fun for awhile
before you send them to the telescope also works. Something I am less sure
of but seems to help with the basketball and soccer equipment is that it
seems to me that if my Sims play with someone they will not stop because
they maxed their fun.

Gareeth

On Jul 12, 5:45 pm, "Engram" <engram... DeleteThis @yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Gareeth wrote:
> > Engram wrote:
> >> They will also fish
> >> until the cows come home or they keel over from overheating. It's
> >> just stupid and inconsistent.
> > Most Sims don't find fishing fun. I thought none of them did but then
> > suddenly I found a few who liked it. Otherwise yes it is quite
> > inconsistent.
>
> Most of my sims find fishing fun. They will fish for hours and days even (if
> you use max motives so they don't have to fulfil any of their needs) without
> a break. They won't jump out of fishing with a full fun meter. The only time
> they did that for me was when I had Dizzy's exit-fun-hack and
> exit-skill-hack because I didn't realise that "be more open to other
> interactions" means: take out fishing pole, put back fishing pole, take out
> fishing pole, put back fishing pole, take out fishing pole... etc, etc, ad
> nauseam.
>
> Cheers!
> Engramhttp://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
> The Darcy Legacy!http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy

I think that lately the sims have stronger personal preferences
about what they will do endlessly and what they are eager to jump out
of. Hurrah! reaction things seem to be more attractive than "ahhh,
shucks, don't make me do that" things. But, it is hard to tell as it
is somewhat variable.

Madame Mim wrote:
> Either drop down their fun manually (because it's maxed fun that's
> doing it) or use Pescado's skillinator. The ADHD is amasing in FT.

Could be... It's weird. I just tested and Cassandra Goth, fresh from being
left at the altar by Don was able to stargaze and find a star and get
enthusiasm and keep stargazing. But my legacy founder's spouse dropped it
out of the queue after gaining enthusiasm. The only difference was that he
was doing the Look Through action, while Cass was stargazing. I had had a
reset a while back and had not played Cass's household since so all her
needs were maxed. I might have to investigate further but the fun thing
seems unlikely. I found that the fun meter only interferes when you have
certain Dizzy hacks in and I got rid of all the ones of hers (his?) that
were interfering by making actions drop out due to full fun meters.

Cheers!
Engram
http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy

Gareeth wrote:
> Engram wrote:
>> I have noticed that I cannot get anyone in any of my sims' houses to
>> stay focused on skilling. Eg. they start looking through the
>> telescope, gain science enthusiasm and walk away.
>
> If they have maxed fun they seem to abandon it now. If it is the
> logic skill you want chess is a better bet as mine will carry on
> playing that despite maxed skill. Having your sim skill in something
> that drops fun for awhile before you send them to the telescope also
> works. Something I am less sure of but seems to help with the
> basketball and soccer equipment is that it seems to me that if my
> Sims play with someone they will not stop because they maxed their
> fun.

I just find it weird that not everything seems to be affected. They will
drop Look Through on the telescope, but not Stargaze, and will keep playing
chess until you tell them to stop. They will also cycle on the exercise bike
until they drop dead (I have had this happen) but will only throw a few
hoops and give up. They will also fish until the cows come home or they keel
over from overheating. It's just stupid and inconsistent.

Cheers!
Engram
http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy

"Engram" <engram_au DeleteThis @yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Gareeth wrote:
>> Engram wrote:
>>> I have noticed that I cannot get anyone in any of my sims' houses to
>>> stay focused on skilling. Eg. they start looking through the
>>> telescope, gain science enthusiasm and walk away.
>>
>> If they have maxed fun they seem to abandon it now. If it is the
>> logic skill you want chess is a better bet as mine will carry on
>> playing that despite maxed skill. Having your sim skill in something
>> that drops fun for awhile before you send them to the telescope also
>> works. Something I am less sure of but seems to help with the
>> basketball and soccer equipment is that it seems to me that if my
>> Sims play with someone they will not stop because they maxed their
>> fun.
>
> I just find it weird that not everything seems to be affected. They will
> drop Look Through on the telescope, but not Stargaze, and will keep
> playing chess until you tell them to stop. They will also cycle on the
> exercise bike until they drop dead (I have had this happen) but will only
> throw a few hoops and give up. They will also fish until the cows come
> home or they keel over from overheating. It's just stupid and
> inconsistent.
>
> Cheers!
> Engram
> http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
> The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy
>
I am ony having problems with watching the ants, and reading.
Stargaze works fine, sewing and pottery also okay, shooting hoops works, and
collecting bugs only works until they get chased by bees.

Engram wrote:
> They will also fish
> until the cows come home or they keel over from overheating. It's
> just stupid and inconsistent.
Most Sims don't find fishing fun. I thought none of them did but then
suddenly I found a few who liked it. Otherwise yes it is quite inconsistent.

Gareeth

PuppyKatt wrote:
> I am ony having problems with watching the ants, and reading.
> Stargaze works fine, sewing and pottery also okay, shooting hoops
> works, and collecting bugs only works until they get chased by bees.

I haven't tried the ants, but the activities that seem to get interrupted
are Look Through (daytime telescope) and the basketball. I'll have to check
out reading as that seems to have changed with the new novel system and the
different types of books.

Cheers!
Engram
http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy

ants?


"Engram" <engram_au.DeleteThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> PuppyKatt wrote:
>> I am ony having problems with watching the ants, and reading.
>> Stargaze works fine, sewing and pottery also okay, shooting hoops
>> works, and collecting bugs only works until they get chased by bees.
>
> I haven't tried the ants, but the activities that seem to get interrupted
> are Look Through (daytime telescope) and the basketball. I'll have to
> check out reading as that seems to have changed with the new novel system
> and the different types of books.
>
> Cheers!
> Engram
> http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
> The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy
>

Madame Mim wrote:
> ants?
>
The ant farm object. It's a way for kids especially to skill in science.

Jeanie
>
> "Engram" <engram_au.DeleteThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4878983b$0$1025$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> PuppyKatt wrote:
>>> I am ony having problems with watching the ants, and reading.
>>> Stargaze works fine, sewing and pottery also okay, shooting hoops
>>> works, and collecting bugs only works until they get chased by bees.
>> I haven't tried the ants, but the activities that seem to get interrupted
>> are Look Through (daytime telescope) and the basketball. I'll have to
>> check out reading as that seems to have changed with the new novel system
>> and the different types of books.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Engram
>> http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
>> The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy
>>
>
>

I hadn't noticed it. I shall have to have a look.

MM


"Jeanie" <taureanmoon.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Madame Mim wrote:
>> ants?
>>
> The ant farm object. It's a way for kids especially to skill in science.
>
> Jeanie
>>
>> "Engram" <engram_au.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4878983b$0$1025$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> PuppyKatt wrote:
>>>> I am ony having problems with watching the ants, and reading.
>>>> Stargaze works fine, sewing and pottery also okay, shooting hoops
>>>> works, and collecting bugs only works until they get chased by bees.
>>> I haven't tried the ants, but the activities that seem to get
>>> interrupted are Look Through (daytime telescope) and the basketball.
>>> I'll have to check out reading as that seems to have changed with the
>>> new novel system and the different types of books.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Engram
>>> http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
>>> The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy
>>>
>>

Gareeth wrote:
> Engram wrote:
>> They will also fish
>> until the cows come home or they keel over from overheating. It's
>> just stupid and inconsistent.
> Most Sims don't find fishing fun. I thought none of them did but then
> suddenly I found a few who liked it. Otherwise yes it is quite
> inconsistent.

Most of my sims find fishing fun. They will fish for hours and days even (if
you use max motives so they don't have to fulfil any of their needs) without
a break. They won't jump out of fishing with a full fun meter. The only time
they did that for me was when I had Dizzy's exit-fun-hack and
exit-skill-hack because I didn't realise that "be more open to other
interactions" means: take out fishing pole, put back fishing pole, take out
fishing pole, put back fishing pole, take out fishing pole... etc, etc, ad
nauseam.

Cheers!
Engram
http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy

Engram wrote:
> Most of my sims find fishing fun. They will fish for hours and days
> even (if you use max motives so they don't have to fulfil any of
> their needs) without a break.

Hmm that's odd. I have right now less than 5 Sims who enjoy fishing. I don't
have any hacks at the moment other than the multiple birth one but I have
never had many that like it. Typically when I find someone who does they
wind up doing a lot of fishing so that their family can have fresh food
without the wait. Wonder how your Sims differ from mine.

Gareeth

Gareeth wrote:
> Engram wrote:
>> Most of my sims find fishing fun. They will fish for hours and days
>> even (if you use max motives so they don't have to fulfil any of
>> their needs) without a break.
>
> Hmm that's odd. I have right now less than 5 Sims who enjoy fishing.
> I don't have any hacks at the moment other than the multiple birth
> one but I have never had many that like it. Typically when I find
> someone who does they wind up doing a lot of fishing so that their
> family can have fresh food without the wait. Wonder how your Sims
> differ from mine.
I think that fishing is the best activity they ever put in there. It builds
fun and it's the perfect friendship builder, too. I once had a child bring
home a friend from school and they autonomously went fishing. By 6pm their
daily relationship was 100, they had built up their lifetime relationship,
too, and my sim kid had caught a bunch of fish as well!

I would say that my sims don't differ from yours. My legacy founder at first
found fishing a fun drain. Until she got her bronze fishing badge all she
caught were boots, which *reduce* fun when a sim catches them. The only time
you really have drastic motive changes with fishing is when they catch
something. When they are just standing there it's like they're idle, with
very slow motive drain. Then they catch something and depending on whether
it's a fish or a boot they will either gain or lose fun. Which is probably
why you say your sims hate fishing. At the beginning they are more likely to
catch boots so they will experience fun drain and thus make you think they
"hate" fishing. As they get better at it, they catch more fish and thus
experince an increase in fun. You just have to get through the initial
boot-catching stage and they will eventually think it's the bee's knees.

Cheers!
Engram
http://rothpoint.googlepages.com/home
The Darcy Legacy! http://engram-au.livejournal.com/tag/legacy:+darcy