Fly Lines & Reels

In article <86ydnfcbeq5I1rjUnZ2dnUVZ8uCdnZ2d DeleteThis @bt.com>, Charles Turner
<URL:mailto:charles.turner@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Just got a new Scierra rod and am looking to spend Ģ100-150 on a new reel,
> any suggestions?
> Also what is the best WF8 Flating Fly Lines.

NOW you've started something - I'm not going to recommend anything - but:
before you finally decide, try it on your rod and check the balance.

Cheerio,

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Charles Turner wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Just got a new Scierra rod and am looking to spend Ģ100-150 on a new
> reel, any suggestions?
> Also what is the best WF8 Flating Fly Lines.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Charles


I would suggest the Okuma Airframe for that line capacity;

http://www.okumafishing.com/products/flyfishing/airframe.htm

http://www.tackleshop.co.uk/tackleshopcouk/ctl10390/cp44721/si3482107/.../okuma_

I have several of these reels which I use mainly in salt water, mostly
for sea-trout, and for large predator fishing. One may of course use
them for anything at all. I donīt see the point in spending a great deal
more than you need to, and I donīt know of any good alternatives in that
price range anyway.

With regard to a line, before one may give any recommendations at all,
more data is required. What do you want to use it for? ( I am tempted
to assume the "standard" sort of still water fly-fishing practised
widely in the UK, but might of course be wrong).

TL
MC

In article <ant201221bc8BxcK DeleteThis @strongarm.dereks.pad>, Derek Moody
<derek.moody DeleteThis @clara.net> writes
>In article <86ydnfcbeq5I1rjUnZ2dnUVZ8uCdnZ2d DeleteThis @bt.com>, Charles Turner
><URL:mailto:charles.turner@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Just got a new Scierra rod and am looking to spend Ģ100-150 on a new reel,
>> any suggestions?
>> Also what is the best WF8 Flating Fly Lines.
>
>NOW you've started something - I'm not going to recommend anything - but:
>before you finally decide, try it on your rod and check the balance.
>
>Cheerio,
>

Well I'll offer my two pennorth! Without being too "gear feak" minded, I
can only say how pleased I've been using my BFL "Rimfly" reels with
Cortland 444 WF8 floating line.

Don't knock it till you've had a look.

Ģ100 for a reel - that makes me "reel"
--
Bill Grey

In article <0jtdHGDQidJJFwDR.DeleteThis@graigroad.demon.co.uk>, W. D. Grey
<URL:mailto:Bill@graigroad.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Ģ100 for a reel - that makes me "reel"



For that I could get for or five of the reels I usually use -and- the lines
to fill 'em.
I hesitate to recommend lines mainly because I don't know who makes the
mill-ends I buy...

Cheerio,

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Derek Moody wrote:
> In article <0jtdHGDQidJJFwDR DeleteThis @graigroad.demon.co.uk>, W. D. Grey
> <URL:mailto:Bill@graigroad.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Ģ100 for a reel - that makes me "reel"
>
>
>
> For that I could get for or five of the reels I usually use -and- the lines
> to fill 'em.
> I hesitate to recommend lines mainly because I don't know who makes the
> mill-ends I buy...
>
> Cheerio,
>


Heh heh, I know who makes mine ( Mill Ends that is) , and I also know a
few of the major brands quite well. I still get quite a few sent for
testing and review, among other things, and I have even been known to
buy them occasionally as well!

Practically all the people I have recently taught, or even just been
fishing with (and usually "borrowing" my gear for a while), now have the
reels mentioned, and most also have the lines I recommend, but I only
recommend such things after I know exactly what they want them for.

The problem as such is still basically the same, and that is, what do
you want to use the line for?

The reel I mentioned can be obtained in some places for less than twenty
five quid, but is in my opinion, and as compared to the
price/application/suitability of practically all others used for
fresh-water and light salt-water fishing, worth at least three times the
price of the most expensive of such reels available.

In other words, I think itīs the best, regardless of price. If I could
buy a better reel for 250 pounds, then I would do so, but I canīt, and
so I simply buy the best for 25 pounds.

Since using these reels regularly, for a number of years, I have become
even more impressed with them as time went on. They are all still as
good as new, even though their five year warranty has in the mean time
run out. Spare spools, or even a second reel as backup is not a problem,
and the reels have all the possible advantages required of such a reel,
and none of the disadvantages. Although being extremely good valie for
money is very definitely an advantage in my opinion, it is only a
secondary advantage in this case.The primary advantages, and the same
citeria I would apply to any reel of any price, are much much greater.

Indeed, at this present moment in time, I donīt think there is a better
reel for the purpose in existence, at any price.

If anybody wants me to list the advantages, I will happily do so.

For anybody who doesnīt know me, I have no financial connections or
vested interest in the various tackle shops, companies etc. I am just
another angler looking for the best I can find, regardless of price, but
happy when I donīt have to worry about the price either!

TL
MC

In article <gg52qd$1kr$00$1@news.t-online.com>, mike-connor.TakeThisOut@freenet.de
<URL:mailto:Mike-Connor@freenet.de> wrote:

> Since using these reels regularly, for a number of years, I have become
> even more impressed with them as time went on. They are all still as
> good as new, even though their five year warranty has in the mean time
> run out. Spare spools, or even a second reel as backup is not a problem,

I'm planning major replacement of reels and lines sometime soon, probably
in the new year. For general fishing I standardised on a cheap graphite job
and bought several along with spare spools and have replaced with the same
model as required (I'm pretty hard on tackle and I don't look after it
properly.) This makes it easy to mix and match and keeps things
straightforward. It was one of the early models and although they are still
available I am well aware that there are new and better reels out there. I
need to replace a back and three spools this time* so it's a good time to
think about changing the standard. I've added your suggestion to the check
'em out list.

Cheerio,

* How well do the Okumas take to being dropped and left soaked in salt,
oily, bilgewater for three days foul weather?

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In article <ant20222806cBxcK DeleteThis @strongarm.dereks.pad>, Derek Moody
<derek.moody DeleteThis @clara.net> writes
>I hesitate to recommend lines mainly because I don't know who makes the
>mill-ends I buy...

A lot of people use Mill Ends - I never have, but not for ay particular
reason. They are a good idea for someone learning to cast though, no
point in wrecking a 40 quid line by practising.
--
Bill Grey

In article <V3+VyqAe4pJJFwGh@graigroad.demon.co.uk>, W. D. Grey
<URL:mailto:Bill@graigroad.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ant20222806cBxcK DeleteThis @strongarm.dereks.pad>, Derek Moody
> <derek.moody DeleteThis @clara.net> writes
> >I hesitate to recommend lines mainly because I don't know who makes the
> >mill-ends I buy...
>
> A lot of people use Mill Ends - I never have, but not for ay particular
> reason. They are a good idea for someone learning to cast though, no
> point in wrecking a 40 quid line by practising.

And in the snagpits I fish there's no fear of wrecking it by fishing.

I do have a couple of named lines (Cyril and Jennifer) but in the ordinary
run of fishing almost all makes are broadly equivalent. It's only when
pushing limits of one kind or another that someone with my mediocre casting
ability wll notice any difference.

Cheerio,

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mike-connor.RemoveThis@freenet.de wrote:

Oh, and I like the matt black finish as well, which of course is
integral to the material. The only small "glint" from the reel is the
cover of the spool counterweight which is highly polished metal. I have
roughed this up a bit and glued a small circle of matt black vinyl to it.

TL
MC

Thought these might also be of interest;

http://www.fishingmagic.com/news/article/mps/uan/4613

http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/fly-reels/okuma-airframe.html

http://www.worldseafishing.com/reviews/flyfishingrevs/okuma_flyreel.html

There are plenty more reviews knocking about on the web, and I have not
yet seen anything negative.

Well worth very serious consideration at any rate. May not be everyoneīs
cup of tea, but I am more than happy with mine, and see no reason to
change to anything else, quite regardless of the price. The only thing
better for me personally would be my own prototypes in the same
material, with a couple of relatively minor modifications to suit me
personally( unfortunately not possible), or something from Ari T'hart
but also in the same material and an offset foot as here;

http://urbanflyfisher.com/ari-t-hart-for-those-that-can-afford-them/

I will simply not entertain metal reels anymore, not even made from
"Hand-crafted" titanium, quite independent of the price.

TL
MC

Hmm...sorry, that link no longer seems to work, The offset foot from
the Henschel No 3 shown here is similar;

http://www.henschelreels.com/antireverse0.0.html

or the "titan" ( Titanium ) here;

http://www.henschelreels.com/titan.0.html?&L=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%3F



There are even cheaper alternatives of course, and I have used a couple
which worked OK, though some have a tendency for some part of the reel
to flex too much under stress, which may cause problems ( Usuallly spool
sideplates). The below merely as demos, I have not used these specific
reels!!!! ;

http://www.theflyfactory.co.uk/store/product_detail/302

http://www.theflyfactory.co.uk/store/product_detail/342

This one still only costs 8.95 Euros;

http://www.yatego.com/angel-zoobedarf-spiek/p,47dc0674714d0,3f39f90802...9_8,fli

I believe this isn the same model I used to use, but it costs 15.99 now,
which is three times what it cost when I had them. Still quite a few
people using them;

http://www.fishers-paradise.de/Angelrollen/Fliegenrollen/FLIEGENROLLE-...ENTURE-

This is the large arbour version of that reel;

http://www.piscatus.de/ANGELROLLEN/Fliegenrollen/CORMORAN-FLYCOR-Flieg...ollen-S

there are plenty more such reels now, some at amazingly cheap prices,
which makes me wonder why people spend a fortune for a lot of "bling"
which is not only extremely expensive, but less functional, reliable, or
even suitable at all for a lot of flyfishing.

These die cast reinforced carbon fiber reels come in a very wide range
here, and mostly quite cheap. No idea whether they are sold in the UK ?

Anyway, thatīs probably enough about that for the time being!

TL
MC

Thanks for the info guys.


"Charles Turner" <charles.turner.RemoveThis@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys,
>
> Just got a new Scierra rod and am looking to spend Ģ100-150 on a new reel,
> any suggestions?
> Also what is the best WF8 Flating Fly Lines.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Charles

On Nov 20, 6:36 am, "Charles Turner" <charles.tur... RemoveThis @btinternet.com>
wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Just got a new Scierra rod and am looking to spend Ģ100-150 on a new reel,
> any suggestions?
> Also what is the best WF8 Flating Fly Lines.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charles

Sharkskin.

Period.

It doesn't get any better.

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