FM 2009 harder than 2008?

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:54:45 +0000, Chris F put finger to keyboard and
typed:

>On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:53:45 +0100, "Hari Seldon"
><Roel.Pieper.DeleteThis@philips.nl> wrote:
>
>>Looks like it to me...
>>
>>Tactical tweaking and surprises during the match seem to be more important.
>>Just as Teamtalk does...
>>
>>
>it does seem harder, and apparently uses a lot of the same match
>engine code as FML, but i can't confirm that 100%, just what i've
>heard.
>
>if that's true then playing 451 should net you a few points.

I haven't played either FML or FM2008 (I skipped that one and went
straight from 07 to 09), but I have found that variants of one up
front (either 4-4-1-1, 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1) tend to be the most
reliable in FM2009. Playing two strikers together doesn't seem to
work, except against much weaker teams. At least, that's true in the
Premiership, I haven't tried an LLM game yet.

In this respect, it seems to be pretty realistic. There's an article
on The Guardian website which looks at the way that the standard 4-4-2
has generally been replaced by a system with a single target man up
front and a fluid five-man midfield capable of operating in a variety
of formations.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2008/dec/18/4231-442-tactics-j...than-wi
or http://tinyurl.com/4321-442 for those who have problems with
breaking long lines.

Mark
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Hari Seldon wrote:
> Looks like it to me...
>
> Tactical tweaking and surprises during the match seem to be more important.
> Just as Teamtalk does...
>

Well I got FM2009 for Xmas, so will be loading it up in the New Year!

Managed to pick up some bargains at Woolworths for my PS2 though - Tiger
Woods PGA Tour 2009 down from £39.95 to £12.99 with all the various
discount!

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> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:54:45 +0000, Chris F put finger to keyboard and
> typed:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:53:45 +0100, "Hari Seldon"
>><Roel.Pieper DeleteThis @philips.nl> wrote:
>>
>>>Looks like it to me...
>>>
>>>Tactical tweaking and surprises during the match seem to be more
>>>important.
>>>Just as Teamtalk does...
>>>
>>>
>>it does seem harder, and apparently uses a lot of the same match
>>engine code as FML, but i can't confirm that 100%, just what i've
>>heard.
>>
>>if that's true then playing 451 should net you a few points.
>
> I haven't played either FML or FM2008 (I skipped that one and went
> straight from 07 to 09), but I have found that variants of one up
> front (either 4-4-1-1, 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1) tend to be the most
> reliable in FM2009. Playing two strikers together doesn't seem to
> work, except against much weaker teams. At least, that's true in the
> Premiership, I haven't tried an LLM game yet.
>
> In this respect, it seems to be pretty realistic. There's an article
> on The Guardian website which looks at the way that the standard 4-4-2
> has generally been replaced by a system with a single target man up
> front and a fluid five-man midfield capable of operating in a variety
> of formations.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2008/dec/18/4231-442-tactics-j...than-wi
> or http://tinyurl.com/4321-442 for those who have problems with
> breaking long lines.
>
> Mark
> --
> A Miscellany Of Good Stuff:
> http://www.good-stuff.co.uk
> http://namestore.good-stuff.co.uk
> http://news.good-stuff.co.uk

Reminds me of an article in a footie-mag. Some bloke stated that the 4-6-0
formation will be the future. No strikers. Only midfielders steaming up
towards the goal.

Mark Goodge wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:54:45 +0000, Chris F put finger to keyboard and
> typed:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:53:45 +0100, "Hari Seldon"
>> <Roel.Pieper.TakeThisOut@philips.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like it to me...
>>>
>>> Tactical tweaking and surprises during the match seem to be more important.
>>> Just as Teamtalk does...
>>>
>>>
>> it does seem harder, and apparently uses a lot of the same match
>> engine code as FML, but i can't confirm that 100%, just what i've
>> heard.
>>
>> if that's true then playing 451 should net you a few points.
>
> I haven't played either FML or FM2008 (I skipped that one and went
> straight from 07 to 09), but I have found that variants of one up
> front (either 4-4-1-1, 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1) tend to be the most
> reliable in FM2009. Playing two strikers together doesn't seem to
> work, except against much weaker teams. At least, that's true in the
> Premiership, I haven't tried an LLM game yet.
>
> In this respect, it seems to be pretty realistic. There's an article
> on The Guardian website which looks at the way that the standard 4-4-2
> has generally been replaced by a system with a single target man up
> front and a fluid five-man midfield capable of operating in a variety
> of formations.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2008/dec/18/4231-442-tactics-j...than-wi
> or http://tinyurl.com/4321-442 for those who have problems with
> breaking long lines.
>
> Mark

Graham Taylor was talking about this whilst doing the commentary on the
Fulham v Chelsea game on Radio 5 yesterday. Mainly in response to being
asked whether Chelsea could prosper with both Anelka and Drogba upfront!

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:54:45 +0000, Chris F
<chris RemoveThis @asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:53:45 +0100, "Hari Seldon"
><Roel.Pieper RemoveThis @philips.nl> wrote:
>
>>Looks like it to me...
>>
>>Tactical tweaking and surprises during the match seem to be more important.
>>Just as Teamtalk does...
>>
>>
>it does seem harder, and apparently uses a lot of the same match
>engine code as FML, but i can't confirm that 100%, just what i've
>heard.
>
>if that's true then playing 451 should net you a few points.

Oh, I love it when people start with 4-5-1 against me expecting to
have a pleasant evening and find themselves easily beaten

-Nick

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> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:54:45 +0000, Chris F put finger to keyboard and
> typed:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:53:45 +0100, "Hari Seldon"
>><Roel.Pieper.RemoveThis@philips.nl> wrote:
>>
>>>Looks like it to me...
>>>
>>>Tactical tweaking and surprises during the match seem to be more
>>>important.
>>>Just as Teamtalk does...
>>>
>>>
>>it does seem harder, and apparently uses a lot of the same match
>>engine code as FML, but i can't confirm that 100%, just what i've
>>heard.
>>
>>if that's true then playing 451 should net you a few points.
>
> I haven't played either FML or FM2008 (I skipped that one and went
> straight from 07 to 09), but I have found that variants of one up
> front (either 4-4-1-1, 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1) tend to be the most
> reliable in FM2009. Playing two strikers together doesn't seem to
> work, except against much weaker teams. At least, that's true in the
> Premiership, I haven't tried an LLM game yet.
>
> In this respect, it seems to be pretty realistic. There's an article
> on The Guardian website which looks at the way that the standard 4-4-2
> has generally been replaced by a system with a single target man up
> front and a fluid five-man midfield capable of operating in a variety
> of formations.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2008/dec/18/4231-442-tactics-j...than-wi
> or http://tinyurl.com/4321-442 for those who have problems with
> breaking long lines.
>
> Mark
> --
> A Miscellany Of Good Stuff:
> http://www.good-stuff.co.uk
> http://namestore.good-stuff.co.uk
> http://news.good-stuff.co.uk

Oh Mr. Goodge my dear dear friend...

I switched to 1 striker up front now, and the effect is amazing.

I still loose as a bankrupt LlaMa, but with one striker less I do get
dangerous indeed, and now and then get a draw.

SI Should have named this in their manual.

It may be realistic, but the downside is that I always loved to find three
adamant strikers at age 17 and nurture them to play... now I must play with
one