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Alfie [UK]

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:18 pm
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I've been keeping an eye on this since the first stirrings earlier this
year and it seems that the EU are stepping towards bans on excessive
violence and enforcement of age restrictions on games.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070613-regulations-on-the-sale-...violent

OfCOM in the UK have several discussion papers and a commissioned report
which seems inconclusive but there are further noises being made about
the link between videogames and childhood violent behaviour.

I'm all for making the PEGI/ESRB ratings 'formal' and enforcing this
under existing regulation of the sale of age marked goods to minors (not
that I for one minute think it will stop them getting hold of or having
bought for them material that they should not legally have access to),
but this Commissioner Frattini has on several occasions stated his
personal belief that violent videogames create violent children, and
that banning violent games is the only real solution.

I don't see why I, as a (pyschiatrically certified) well-adjusted
30-something, should be denied the chance to vent my anger blowing away
sprites of an evening just because the EU can't work out a way to stop
angst-ridden teens being violent to each other.
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Alfie [UK]
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I wish I were a Glow Worm, A Glow Worm's never glum. How can you be unhappy when the sun shines out yer bum ?
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John Smith

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:55 am
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> I don't see why I, as a (pyschiatrically certified)

What Psychiatrist certified you though?
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Schrodinger

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:49 pm
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"Alfie [UK]" <alfie.RemoveThis@mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:5be373tlej7s6qnsm1b2q6i3j5vu85i584@4ax.com...
> I've been keeping an eye on this since the first stirrings earlier this
> year and it seems that the EU are stepping towards bans on excessive
> violence and enforcement of age restrictions on games.
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070613-regulations-on-the-sale-...violent
>
> OfCOM in the UK have several discussion papers and a commissioned report
> which seems inconclusive but there are further noises being made about
> the link between videogames and childhood violent behaviour.
>
> I'm all for making the PEGI/ESRB ratings 'formal' and enforcing this
> under existing regulation of the sale of age marked goods to minors (not
> that I for one minute think it will stop them getting hold of or having
> bought for them material that they should not legally have access to),
> but this Commissioner Frattini has on several occasions stated his
> personal belief that violent videogames create violent children, and
> that banning violent games is the only real solution.
>
> I don't see why I, as a (pyschiatrically certified) well-adjusted
> 30-something, should be denied the chance to vent my anger blowing away
> sprites of an evening just because the EU can't work out a way to stop
> angst-ridden teens being violent to each other.
> --
> Alfie [UK]
> <http://www.delphia.co.uk/>
> I wish I were a Glow Worm, A Glow Worm's never glum. How can you be
> unhappy when the sun shines out yer bum ?
>
>

They are more or less crying "witchcraft" and banning that witch they do not
understand.

No surprise really, but then again it's not healthy having 8 year olds
playing Grand Theft Auto. A good friend of mine bought Vice City for his 8
year old son and didn't understand why he shouldn't!
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Alfie [UK]

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:20 pm
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:49:56 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no.TakeThisOut@way.com> wrote:

>They are more or less crying "witchcraft" and banning that witch they do not
>understand.

Absolutely, Frattini appears to be jumping on the bandwagon of a teen
shooting in Germany in the same politicos in the US have done in the
past, but he is the current EU chair so has a lot of pull politically
with the EU.
>
>No surprise really, but then again it's not healthy having 8 year olds
>playing Grand Theft Auto. A good friend of mine bought Vice City for his 8
>year old son and didn't understand why he shouldn't!
>
Absolutely agreed, I do think more needs to be done to restrict the type
of games marketed at minors, although I disagree that violent games
breed violent kids. It's an ongoing problem in the UK specifically that
parents have devolved responsibility to the state for what their kids
get up to.

What I really object to is politicians, with no idea what a video game
is, legislating that they are bad for us. OfCOM have essentially
concluded that they don't need to do anything, but if enough EU
countries decide to do something, and 3 are at least changing local
legislation, then it becomes EU law and OfCOM get overruled.
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Alfie [UK]
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Lukas Mariman

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:29 pm
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Alfie [UK] wrote:
> I've been keeping an eye on this since the first stirrings earlier
> this year and it seems that the EU are stepping towards bans on
> excessive violence and enforcement of age restrictions on games.
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070613-regulations-on-the-sale-...violent
>
> OfCOM in the UK have several discussion papers and a commissioned
> report which seems inconclusive but there are further noises being
> made about the link between videogames and childhood violent
> behaviour.
>
> I'm all for making the PEGI/ESRB ratings 'formal' and enforcing this
> under existing regulation of the sale of age marked goods to minors
> (not that I for one minute think it will stop them getting hold of or
> having bought for them material that they should not legally have
> access to), but this Commissioner Frattini has on several occasions
> stated his personal belief that violent videogames create violent
> children, and that banning violent games is the only real solution.
>
> I don't see why I, as a (pyschiatrically certified) well-adjusted
> 30-something, should be denied the chance to vent my anger blowing
> away sprites of an evening just because the EU can't work out a way
> to stop angst-ridden teens being violent to each other.

On the contrary! We should ban everything that even hints at violence!

Let's burn all the books, anything that even mentions violence! Of course,
this means the so-called "holy" books will have to go first, since they're
soaked in blood and immorality!
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arioch

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:29 pm
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In article <5dg7kqF34tm8qU1.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>, lukas.mariman.RemoveThis@skynet.be
says...

> On the contrary! We should ban everything that even hints at violence!
>
> Let's burn all the books, anything that even mentions violence! Of course,
> this means the so-called "holy" books will have to go first, since they're
> soaked in blood and immorality!
>
LOL...I get positively giddy on just thinking about "Who banned your
Bible, Thumper?"

--arioch
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John Smith

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:57 am
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> On the contrary! We should ban everything that even hints at violence!
>
> Let's burn all the books, anything that even mentions violence! Of course,
> this means the so-called "holy" books will have to go first, since they're
> soaked in blood and immorality!

Books are the work of the Devil, everyone knows that!
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