EA developing System Shock 3

Quoth The Raven; Rob <noemailformethx.RemoveThis@jsjsaiiowppw.com> in
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> On 13 Aug 2006 18:26:33 -0700, "Alex Mars" <Soulclaw.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/07/ea-does-give-a-sh-t-about-system-shock-3-says-pc-gamer-uk/
>
> Interesting news.
>
> I think they're on a hiding to nothing just like Warren Spector/ Ion
> Storm was with Deus Ex 2. If it's not enough like System Shock 2
> it'll be criticised, if it's too much like System Shock 2 it'll be
> criticised. If it tries to be its "own game" it'll be criticised.
>
> Good news anyway though. If nothing else it might allow Bio-Shock to
> be viewed as a game in its own right, rather than being judged as
> "System Shock 3".

although even bio-shock claims to be the spiritual successor

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Highlandish wrote:
> Quoth The Raven; Rob <noemailformethx RemoveThis @jsjsaiiowppw.com> in
> <eca0e2pcps67vs08fhouio8kplmmf9jmei RemoveThis @4ax.com>
>> On 13 Aug 2006 18:26:33 -0700, "Alex Mars" <Soulclaw RemoveThis @gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/07/ea-does-give-a-sh-t-about-system-sho...3-says-
>>
>> Interesting news.
>>
>> I think they're on a hiding to nothing just like Warren Spector/ Ion
>> Storm was with Deus Ex 2. If it's not enough like System Shock 2
>> it'll be criticised, if it's too much like System Shock 2 it'll be
>> criticised. If it tries to be its "own game" it'll be criticised.
>>
>> Good news anyway though. If nothing else it might allow Bio-Shock to
>> be viewed as a game in its own right, rather than being judged as
>> "System Shock 3".
>
> although even bio-shock claims to be the spiritual successor

I'd buy a remake of the original System Shock done with modern
graphics/interface.

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>Highlandish wrote:
>> Quoth The Raven; Rob <noemailformethx.DeleteThis@jsjsaiiowppw.com> in
>> <eca0e2pcps67vs08fhouio8kplmmf9jmei.DeleteThis@4ax.com>
>>> On 13 Aug 2006 18:26:33 -0700, "Alex Mars" <Soulclaw.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/07/ea-does-give-a-sh-t-about-system-sho...3-says-
>>>
>>> Interesting news.
>>>
>>> I think they're on a hiding to nothing just like Warren Spector/ Ion
>>> Storm was with Deus Ex 2. If it's not enough like System Shock 2
>>> it'll be criticised, if it's too much like System Shock 2 it'll be
>>> criticised. If it tries to be its "own game" it'll be criticised.
>>>
>>> Good news anyway though. If nothing else it might allow Bio-Shock to
>>> be viewed as a game in its own right, rather than being judged as
>>> "System Shock 3".
>>
>> although even bio-shock claims to be the spiritual successor
>
>I'd buy a remake of the original System Shock done with modern
>graphics/interface.

Hell yeah.

Actually there are quite a few games i'd buy again with updated
graphics.

Not sure how I feel about it being done by EA though - not exactly a
good track record there.

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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:48:49 -0400, "chainbreaker" <noone DeleteThis @nowhere.com>
wrote:

>I'd buy a remake of the original System Shock done with modern
>graphics/interface.

So would I.

I'd also buy Deus Ex again, System Shock 2 and any of the other
classic FPS if they were re-released with modern graphics. Imagine
playing System Shock 2 rendered by the Source Engine?

I have often wondered why a developer doesn't do this.

The games I'd most like to see done using the Source Engine are the
original Half-Life, Opposing Force and Blue Shift. I know we have
Half-Life Source, but I found that to be highly disappointing.

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Yup. So would I. System Shock 1 has never been beaten in games design. If
they updated the graphics engine to bring it to a modern audience a LOT of
people will be blown away. System Shock 1 was way way ahead of its time when
it was released.

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binary and those that don't'

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> Highlandish wrote:
>> Quoth The Raven; Rob <noemailformethx DeleteThis @jsjsaiiowppw.com> in
>> <eca0e2pcps67vs08fhouio8kplmmf9jmei DeleteThis @4ax.com>
>>> On 13 Aug 2006 18:26:33 -0700, "Alex Mars" <Soulclaw DeleteThis @gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/07/ea-does-give-a-sh-t-about-system-sho...3-says-
>>>
>>> Interesting news.
>>>
>>> I think they're on a hiding to nothing just like Warren Spector/ Ion
>>> Storm was with Deus Ex 2. If it's not enough like System Shock 2
>>> it'll be criticised, if it's too much like System Shock 2 it'll be
>>> criticised. If it tries to be its "own game" it'll be criticised.
>>>
>>> Good news anyway though. If nothing else it might allow Bio-Shock to
>>> be viewed as a game in its own right, rather than being judged as
>>> "System Shock 3".
>>
>> although even bio-shock claims to be the spiritual successor
>
> I'd buy a remake of the original System Shock done with modern
> graphics/interface.
>
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> chainbreaker
>

Xocyll wrote:
>> I'd buy a remake of the original System Shock done with modern
>> graphics/interface.
>
> Hell yeah.
>
> Actually there are quite a few games i'd buy again with updated
> graphics.
>
> Not sure how I feel about it being done by EA though - not exactly a
> good track record there.
>
> Xocyll

I can't really think of that many, and most of the ones I can think of are
flight/driving sims. One game in the CRPG mold I would like to see done in
modern fashion, though, is Sentinel Worlds/Future Magic, if you remember
it--always loved that game, but maybe the concept wouldn't work redone,
dunno.

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"Rob" <noemailformethx.TakeThisOut@jsjsaiiowppw.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:44:09 +0200, Werner Spahl
> <spahl.TakeThisOut@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
>
>
> I'm reminded of one of my biggest disappointments with regard to
> Half-Life 2. No levels set in the Black Mesa. I still count Half-Life
> and the Black Mesa levels among the best of my gaming experiences
> ever.
>
> Still, we had Ravenholme in HL2, which went some way to making up for
> that.
>
> --
> Rob

The demo of SSI took me away from all things Doom. The enhanced CD version
of SSI was sweet. Hi-res graphics (well, at least as far as VGA goes) and
spoken personnel logs.

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"Rob Pollard" <robertapollard.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yup. So would I. System Shock 1 has never been beaten in games design. If
> they updated the graphics engine to bring it to a modern audience a LOT of
> people will be blown away. System Shock 1 was way way ahead of its time
> when it was released.
>

On 14 Aug 2006 15:40:29 -0700, "mace" <mmace.RemoveThis@my-deja.com> wrote:


>> >>http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/07/ea-does-give-a-sh-t-about-system-shock-3-says-pc-gamer-uk/

>
>Well, maybe they will be the first to make it right. But, at least, the
>previews have been water-mouthing with the screenshots' undisguised
>reminiscence of the SS2's style.

Unfortunately, so far that's pretty much all we've seen about the
game. The story idea is neat and the graphics are cool, but you can
pretty much say that for every game prior to release. How it will
actually play, though, is another matter entirely and there hasn't
been too much discussion about this. Basically all we have to go on is
Irrational's involvement, and even that is no promise of good things
to come (one example of this is Ionstorm's track record with the Deus
Ex sequel).

But maybe we'll be lucky. I just think it's too early too go nuts over
Bioshock yet, just because it's the same developer as developed System
Shock 2.

System Shock prevails! That's the game that made me learn English and
now I work part-time translator... guess what an impact that title had
on me still unable to comprehend how a totally 3 dimensional
setting, complex plot, dozens of weapons, logs, cyberjacking could have
been overshadowed by a half-3D monotonous shoot'em'up with nothing
happening...
SS2 was a masterpiece, though it doesn't eclipse the first one for
me...
BioShock has already wet my appetite, though I did want to hear
SHODAN's devious sound once more, but I'll settle with any survival RPG
from the makers of the previous 2

But as for ss3 NOT from Irrational... PLEASE note that a Sparq Beam is
not an ever recharging magic gun with a single power setting, Medis are
not +10 HP instant-pickup powerups to be found lying by the dozen in
every room, SHODAN is not an evilugly giant robot who materializes in
the final room with 10000 HP and a "story" is not made up of going from
Alpha Lab 4 to Alpha Lab 5, while killing yet another seventy imps
along the way... make a decent sequel, pretty please with sugar on top!

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:48:49 -0400, "chainbreaker" <noone DeleteThis @nowhere.com>
wrote:

>Highlandish wrote:
>> Quoth The Raven; Rob <noemailformethx DeleteThis @jsjsaiiowppw.com> in
>> <eca0e2pcps67vs08fhouio8kplmmf9jmei DeleteThis @4ax.com>
>>> On 13 Aug 2006 18:26:33 -0700, "Alex Mars" <Soulclaw DeleteThis @gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/07/ea-does-give-a-sh-t-about-system-sho...3-says-
>>>
>>> Interesting news.
>>>
>>> I think they're on a hiding to nothing just like Warren Spector/ Ion
>>> Storm was with Deus Ex 2. If it's not enough like System Shock 2
>>> it'll be criticised, if it's too much like System Shock 2 it'll be
>>> criticised. If it tries to be its "own game" it'll be criticised.
>>>
>>> Good news anyway though. If nothing else it might allow Bio-Shock to
>>> be viewed as a game in its own right, rather than being judged as
>>> "System Shock 3".
>>
>> although even bio-shock claims to be the spiritual successor
>
>I'd buy a remake of the original System Shock done with modern
>graphics/interface.

anyone know of a winXP patch for Ultima Underworld I & II? I can't get
either of those beauts to run for nothing.. yeah i've tried DosBox but
i don't like it..

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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:09:28 GMT, "pigdos" <NA.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Black Mesa was nuked at the end of OpFor or Blue Shift. There is no more
>Black Mesa.

It's still there. At least some surface buildings I think. On at least
one occasion in Half-Life 2 there is visual reference to Black Mesa.