I Really like Civ4, but.......

"John Simpson" <I.Am.RemoveThis@Melbourne.au> wrote in
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><rant>
> I am getting tired of it crashing and taking my graphics drivers with
> it 3 times its happened in the last 2 days, and once about a day after
> the patch.
>
> I have never had a game take out my video drivers before, this is
> really shoddy programming. And I gotta say, as much as I like playing
> Civ4, its getting close to getting uninstalled and left in the cupboard
> until to 3rd or 4th patch, you know the one in which they not only fix
> the stuff that needed fixing from the start, but all the stuff they
> screw up with previous patches. Though as we've seen before they don't
> always fix all the bugs before shutting down the patching section at
> Firaxis and moving on.
>
> *sigh*
>
></rant>
There's a fan patch on CivFanatics, which significantly reduces memory use
and some users report that it fixes crashes too... Overall, response to it
seems to be pretty positive, though I haven't tried it myself.

Alex.

"alexti" <QQalextiQQ.DeleteThis@videotron.few.useless.chars.ca> wrote in message
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> "John Simpson" <I.Am.DeleteThis@Melbourne.au> wrote in
> news:dn66rm$pc1$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au:
>
>><rant>
>> I am getting tired of it crashing and taking my graphics drivers with
>> it 3 times its happened in the last 2 days, and once about a day after
>> the patch.
>>
>> I have never had a game take out my video drivers before, this is
>> really shoddy programming. And I gotta say, as much as I like playing
>> Civ4, its getting close to getting uninstalled and left in the cupboard
>> until to 3rd or 4th patch, you know the one in which they not only fix
>> the stuff that needed fixing from the start, but all the stuff they
>> screw up with previous patches. Though as we've seen before they don't
>> always fix all the bugs before shutting down the patching section at
>> Firaxis and moving on.
>>
>> *sigh*
>>
>></rant>
> There's a fan patch on CivFanatics, which significantly reduces memory use
> and some users report that it fixes crashes too... Overall, response to it
> seems to be pretty positive, though I haven't tried it myself.
>
> Alex.
>

What fan patch are you referring to? I regularly check CivFanatics for
news, etc. Could you provide a link?

Cheers!

Swiftfoot

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> "alexti" <QQalextiQQ.RemoveThis@videotron.few.useless.chars.ca> wrote in message
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>> "John Simpson" <I.Am.RemoveThis@Melbourne.au> wrote in
>> news:dn66rm$pc1$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au:
>>
>>><rant>
>>> I am getting tired of it crashing and taking my graphics drivers with
>>> it 3 times its happened in the last 2 days, and once about a day after
>>> the patch.
>>>
>>> I have never had a game take out my video drivers before, this is
>>> really shoddy programming. And I gotta say, as much as I like playing
>>> Civ4, its getting close to getting uninstalled and left in the cupboard
>>> until to 3rd or 4th patch, you know the one in which they not only fix
>>> the stuff that needed fixing from the start, but all the stuff they
>>> screw up with previous patches. Though as we've seen before they don't
>>> always fix all the bugs before shutting down the patching section at
>>> Firaxis and moving on.
>>>
>>> *sigh*
>>>
>>></rant>
>> There's a fan patch on CivFanatics, which significantly reduces memory
>> use
>> and some users report that it fixes crashes too... Overall, response to
>> it
>> seems to be pretty positive, though I haven't tried it myself.
>>
>> Alex.
>>
>
> What fan patch are you referring to? I regularly check CivFanatics for
> news, etc. Could you provide a link?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Swiftfoot
>

Ahha... would this be what you are referring to?

Harkonnen Memory-fix

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=146309

Looks promising. Especially if I can run maps larger than standard.

Thanks for the hint about this as I didnt' even know it exists.

Cheers!

Swiftfoot

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:30:21 -0500, Skinner1.RemoveThis@hotmail.com <Skinner1.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:49:31 -0000, "Adam Webb"
><adam.RemoveThis@ajmysecondname.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>hardware specs?
>>driver versions?
>>
>>have you got the patch?
>
> Take off your fanboy glasses Adam. He SAID AFTER THE PATCH!

I thought you said you were leaving.

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> "Swiftfoot" <nonenone DeleteThis @rogers.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "alexti" <QQalextiQQ DeleteThis @videotron.few.useless.chars.ca> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9725DD2281C5sfjshTTalextiFJFsdsi@64.59.135.159...
>>> "John Simpson" <I.Am DeleteThis @Melbourne.au> wrote in
>>> news:dn66rm$pc1$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au:
>>>
>>>><rant>
>>>> I am getting tired of it crashing and taking my graphics drivers
>>>> with it 3 times its happened in the last 2 days, and once about a
>>>> day after the patch.
>>>>
>>>> I have never had a game take out my video drivers before, this is
>>>> really shoddy programming. And I gotta say, as much as I like
>>>> playing Civ4, its getting close to getting uninstalled and left in
>>>> the cupboard until to 3rd or 4th patch, you know the one in which
>>>> they not only fix the stuff that needed fixing from the start, but
>>>> all the stuff they screw up with previous patches. Though as we've
>>>> seen before they don't always fix all the bugs before shutting down
>>>> the patching section at Firaxis and moving on.
>>>>
>>>> *sigh*
>>>>
>>>></rant>
>>> There's a fan patch on CivFanatics, which significantly reduces
>>> memory use and some users report that it fixes crashes too...
>>> Overall, response to it seems to be pretty positive, though I
>>> haven't tried it myself.
>>>
>>> Alex.
>>>
>>
>> What fan patch are you referring to? I regularly check CivFanatics
>> for news, etc. Could you provide a link?
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Swiftfoot
>>
>
> Ahha... would this be what you are referring to?
>
> Harkonnen Memory-fix
>
> http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=146309
>
> Looks promising. Especially if I can run maps larger than standard.
>
> Thanks for the hint about this as I didnt' even know it exists.
Yep, that's the one. Sorry I didn't have link on hand.

Alex

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>> "Swiftfoot" <nonenone.TakeThisOut@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>>> "alexti" <QQalextiQQ.TakeThisOut@videotron.few.useless.chars.ca> wrote in message
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>>>> "John Simpson" <I.Am.TakeThisOut@Melbourne.au> wrote in
>>>> news:dn66rm$pc1$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au:
>>>>
>>>>><rant>
>>>>> I am getting tired of it crashing and taking my graphics drivers
>>>>> with it 3 times its happened in the last 2 days, and once about a
>>>>> day after the patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never had a game take out my video drivers before, this is
>>>>> really shoddy programming. And I gotta say, as much as I like
>>>>> playing Civ4, its getting close to getting uninstalled and left in
>>>>> the cupboard until to 3rd or 4th patch, you know the one in which
>>>>> they not only fix the stuff that needed fixing from the start, but
>>>>> all the stuff they screw up with previous patches. Though as we've
>>>>> seen before they don't always fix all the bugs before shutting down
>>>>> the patching section at Firaxis and moving on.
>>>>>
>>>>> *sigh*
>>>>>
>>>>></rant>
>>>> There's a fan patch on CivFanatics, which significantly reduces
>>>> memory use and some users report that it fixes crashes too...
>>>> Overall, response to it seems to be pretty positive, though I
>>>> haven't tried it myself.
>>>>
>>>> Alex.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What fan patch are you referring to? I regularly check CivFanatics
>>> for news, etc. Could you provide a link?
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Swiftfoot
>>>
>>
>> Ahha... would this be what you are referring to?
>>
>> Harkonnen Memory-fix
>>
>> http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=146309
>>
>> Looks promising. Especially if I can run maps larger than standard.
>>
>> Thanks for the hint about this as I didnt' even know it exists.
> Yep, that's the one. Sorry I didn't have link on hand.
>
> Alex

No worries! Just knowing it existed was key. There is so much stuff there
it's easy to miss things.

Cheers!

Swiftfoot

"Adam Webb" >
> hardware specs?
> driver versions?
>
> have you got the patch?

P4 2.8.Prescott, 1gb DDR400, 128mb Nvidea FX5200 (81.95 Drivers released on
the 5th), 2 SATA blah blah
18 month old computer
Just installed the new drivers, had 2 crashes with those as well, previous
drivers had 5 crashes

Yes I have the patch, said so in my rant

This is not a hardware issue Adam, its a programming issue, a game should
not crash and take out your video drivers. I could have a friggin MX440 and
it still shouldn't do it. Simcity 4 crashes on me on a semi-regular basis,
and never touches anything else on my computer. Civ4 kills my video drivers
on a regular basis now, I tried defragmenting ( Drive was a measly 4%
fragmented), Scandisk, memtest, the works, nothing wrong with the hardware.
Machine is at least twice the Recommended Specs, normally runs fine, except
the crashes which seem to be getting worst.
Anyway I wont be playing Civ4 until next patch comes out to see if it fixes
issues.
Oh and I have no other problems with drivers and modern games, Doom 3, Quake
4, AOE3, Close Combat:First to Fight, Simcity 4 Rush Hour, D&D Dragonshards
all run perfectly ( Aside from Simcity crashes, but have had them since
getting the game)


--
John Simpson

http://nighthawk.mine.nu/

"Quantum Physics: The dreams stuff is made of."

if other games are crashing then there must be something wrong, somewhere
with your drivers or hardware.....

--
From Overlag - Adam Webb


"John Simpson" <I.Am.RemoveThis@Melbourne.au> wrote in message
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> "Adam Webb" >
>> hardware specs?
>> driver versions?
>>
>> have you got the patch?
>
> P4 2.8.Prescott, 1gb DDR400, 128mb Nvidea FX5200 (81.95 Drivers released
> on the 5th), 2 SATA blah blah
> 18 month old computer
> Just installed the new drivers, had 2 crashes with those as well, previous
> drivers had 5 crashes
>
> Yes I have the patch, said so in my rant
>
> This is not a hardware issue Adam, its a programming issue, a game should
> not crash and take out your video drivers. I could have a friggin MX440
> and it still shouldn't do it. Simcity 4 crashes on me on a semi-regular
> basis, and never touches anything else on my computer. Civ4 kills my video
> drivers on a regular basis now, I tried defragmenting ( Drive was a measly
> 4% fragmented), Scandisk, memtest, the works, nothing wrong with the
> hardware.
> Machine is at least twice the Recommended Specs, normally runs fine,
> except the crashes which seem to be getting worst.
> Anyway I wont be playing Civ4 until next patch comes out to see if it
> fixes issues.
> Oh and I have no other problems with drivers and modern games, Doom 3,
> Quake 4, AOE3, Close Combat:First to Fight, Simcity 4 Rush Hour, D&D
> Dragonshards all run perfectly ( Aside from Simcity crashes, but have had
> them since getting the game)
>
>
> --
> John Simpson
>
> http://nighthawk.mine.nu/
>
> "Quantum Physics: The dreams stuff is made of."
>
>

"alexti" <QQalextiQQ.RemoveThis@videotron.few.useless.chars.ca>
> There's a fan patch on CivFanatics, which significantly reduces memory use
> and some users report that it fixes crashes too... Overall, response to it
> seems to be pretty positive, though I haven't tried it myself.
>
> Alex.
>
Thanx Alex
I'll check it out

--
John Simpson

http://nighthawk.mine.nu/

"Quantum Physics: The dreams stuff is made of."