Cinematics in Underworld

On Dec 14, 12:18 am, "McG." <McCod... RemoveThis @comcast.ne> wrote:
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> > Playing the game is not to bad but when it comes to the Cinematics it
> > slows to about a frame every three seconds, also the game loads very
> > slowly.
> > System is
> > Windows XP S/Pack 3
> > Intel Pentium 4 CPU. 3.00 GHz
> > Processor. x86 family 15 model 4 stepping 1 GenIntel 3014 MHz
> > 3.01GHz. 1.50 of RAM.
> > ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP Graphics with Catalyst Control Cnt
> > Display is
> > 800 x 600 32 bit
> > Refresh rate is 60Hz
> > I also cannot  play AOD,Legend or Anni with this card on factory
> > settings.
> > If anyone has the settings I can use it would be a big help.
>
> > Bob
>
> In the game menu, options, video, turn OFF all filtering and full screen
> effects.  All the games listed are DX9 games.  Underworld is DX9.0c 5th
> build, which was earlier this year.  Underworlds installer updates DX to the
> latest build.  your system seems to be a pretty good one for AoD, maxed
> settings, except for the video card.http://users.erols.com/chare/video.htm
> If you look through that list you won't find any advanced Radeon HD cards
> that are AGP, all are PCI Express 2.0
> Is your card AGP or PCIe?
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McG
Lost a hell of a lot of detail after turning off what you suggested .
I'll keep playing till get to the next Cinematics, them slowly turn
things on till I get a compromise.
Card is AGP .
Is there anything in "Catalyst Control"I can change?. I'm reluctant to
change anything in case I stuff it up.I changed the 3D to custom to
smooth the lines,and my display went burko (F&^#ed up) so I had to
reboot PC and change it back.
I have also found out that some media files that used to play on the
latest Windows Media Player now nolonger play, is this the card
again???

Bob

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:18:05 +0300, McG. <McCodger.DeleteThis@comcast.ne> wrote:

> except for the video card

HD3850 (as a hi-end card) is overkill for TRAoD, no matter what settings.
There is something else there.

--
Andrew Rybenkov

Lara Croft had died in The Last Revelation - say NO to impostors

<coyote48.RemoveThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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On Dec 14, 12:18 am, "McG." <McCod....RemoveThis@comcast.ne> wrote:
> <coyot....RemoveThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> > Playing the game is not to bad but when it comes to the Cinematics it
> > slows to about a frame every three seconds, also the game loads very
> > slowly.
> > System is
> > Windows XP S/Pack 3
> > Intel Pentium 4 CPU. 3.00 GHz
> > Processor. x86 family 15 model 4 stepping 1 GenIntel 3014 MHz
> > 3.01GHz. 1.50 of RAM.
> > ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP Graphics with Catalyst Control Cnt
> > Display is
> > 800 x 600 32 bit
> > Refresh rate is 60Hz
> > I also cannot play AOD,Legend or Anni with this card on factory
> > settings.
> > If anyone has the settings I can use it would be a big help.
>
> > Bob
>
> In the game menu, options, video, turn OFF all filtering and full screen
> effects. All the games listed are DX9 games. Underworld is DX9.0c 5th
> build, which was earlier this year. Underworlds installer updates DX to
> the
> latest build. your system seems to be a pretty good one for AoD, maxed
> settings, except for the video card.http://users.erols.com/chare/video.htm
> If you look through that list you won't find any advanced Radeon HD cards
> that are AGP, all are PCI Express 2.0
> Is your card AGP or PCIe?
> McG.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

McG
Lost a hell of a lot of detail after turning off what you suggested .
I'll keep playing till get to the next Cinematics, them slowly turn
things on till I get a compromise.
Card is AGP .
Is there anything in "Catalyst Control"I can change?. I'm reluctant to
change anything in case I stuff it up.I changed the 3D to custom to
smooth the lines,and my display went burko (F&^#ed up) so I had to
reboot PC and change it back.
I have also found out that some media files that used to play on the
latest Windows Media Player now nolonger play, is this the card
again???

Bob

I think it is the card. Your card is not ATI branded, they didn't make an
AGP version. Which brand is it? You'd have to go to them and use their
drivers.
And yes, going back to AGP with that GPU is whats hurting you. it was never
designed for that bus. and it isn't supposed to be on AGP. Any weirdness
may ensue, and apparently has. My suggestion is an AGP card/GPU what was
designed to BE used in AGP. Beyond this, I honestly don't know what to say
about your issues with it.
McG.

coyote48 RemoveThis @optusnet.com.au wrote:
> On Dec 14, 12:18 am, "McG." <McCod... RemoveThis @comcast.ne> wrote:
>> <coyot... RemoveThis @optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>> news:cbb02364-540f-4a9e-926e-37b3c78c3630@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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>>
>>
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>>> Playing the game is not to bad but when it comes to the Cinematics it
>>> slows to about a frame every three seconds, also the game loads very
>>> slowly.
>>> System is
>>> Windows XP S/Pack 3
>>> Intel Pentium 4 CPU. 3.00 GHz
>>> Processor. x86 family 15 model 4 stepping 1 GenIntel 3014 MHz
>>> 3.01GHz. 1.50 of RAM.
>>> ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP Graphics with Catalyst Control Cnt
>>> Display is
>>> 800 x 600 32 bit
>>> Refresh rate is 60Hz
>>> I also cannot play AOD,Legend or Anni with this card on factory
>>> settings.
>>> If anyone has the settings I can use it would be a big help.
>>> Bob
>> In the game menu, options, video, turn OFF all filtering and full screen
>> effects. All the games listed are DX9 games. Underworld is DX9.0c 5th
>> build, which was earlier this year. Underworlds installer updates DX to the
>> latest build. your system seems to be a pretty good one for AoD, maxed
>> settings, except for the video card.http://users.erols.com/chare/video.htm
>> If you look through that list you won't find any advanced Radeon HD cards
>> that are AGP, all are PCI Express 2.0
>> Is your card AGP or PCIe?
>> McG.- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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> McG
> Lost a hell of a lot of detail after turning off what you suggested .
> I'll keep playing till get to the next Cinematics, them slowly turn
> things on till I get a compromise.
> Card is AGP .
> Is there anything in "Catalyst Control"I can change?. I'm reluctant to
> change anything in case I stuff it up.I changed the 3D to custom to
> smooth the lines,and my display went burko (F&^#ed up) so I had to
> reboot PC and change it back.
> I have also found out that some media files that used to play on the
> latest Windows Media Player now nolonger play, is this the card
> again???
>
> Bob


have you updated to the latest drivers? if you have and it messed
things up, go back to the previous drivers. if you haven't, give it a
shot. also, depending on how long the card has been in your computer
and the env it's in, you might want to open the side and inspect it.
make sure it's seated properly, and check for dust in the fans, etc.
could be a heat issue.

<coyote48.TakeThisOut@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Dec 14, 12:18 am, "McG." <McCod....TakeThisOut@comcast.ne> wrote:
>> <coyot....TakeThisOut@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>> news:cbb02364-540f-4a9e-926e-37b3c78c3630@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Playing the game is not to bad but when it comes to the Cinematics
>>> it slows to about a frame every three seconds, also the game loads
>>> very slowly.
>>> System is
>>> Windows XP S/Pack 3
>>> Intel Pentium 4 CPU. 3.00 GHz
>>> Processor. x86 family 15 model 4 stepping 1 GenIntel 3014 MHz
>>> 3.01GHz. 1.50 of RAM.
>>> ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP Graphics with Catalyst Control Cnt
>>> Display is
>>> 800 x 600 32 bit
>>> Refresh rate is 60Hz
>>> I also cannot play AOD,Legend or Anni with this card on factory
>>> settings.
>>> If anyone has the settings I can use it would be a big help.
>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> In the game menu, options, video, turn OFF all filtering and full
>> screen effects. All the games listed are DX9 games. Underworld is
>> DX9.0c 5th build, which was earlier this year. Underworlds installer
>> updates DX to the latest build. your system seems to be a pretty
>> good one for AoD, maxed settings, except for the video
>> card.http://users.erols.com/chare/video.htm If you look through that
>> list you won't find any advanced Radeon HD cards that are AGP, all
>> are PCI Express 2.0
>> Is your card AGP or PCIe?
>> McG.- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
> McG
> Lost a hell of a lot of detail after turning off what you suggested .
> I'll keep playing till get to the next Cinematics, them slowly turn
> things on till I get a compromise.
> Card is AGP .
> Is there anything in "Catalyst Control"I can change?. I'm reluctant to
> change anything in case I stuff it up.I changed the 3D to custom to
> smooth the lines,and my display went burko (F&^#ed up) so I had to
> reboot PC and change it back.
> I have also found out that some media files that used to play on the
> latest Windows Media Player now nolonger play, is this the card
> again???
>
> Bob

You *may* need to turn off video acceleration for Media Player - it
shouldn't affect any games, but it might stabalise Media Players play back.

Duncan

On Dec 14, 11:37 am, "McG." <McCod....RemoveThis@comcast.ne> wrote:
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> On Dec 14, 12:18 am, "McG." <McCod....RemoveThis@comcast.ne> wrote:
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> > <coyot....RemoveThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> >news:cbb02364-540f-4a9e-926e-37b3c78c3630@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com....
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> > > Playing the game is not to bad but when it comes to the Cinematics it
> > > slows to about a frame every three seconds, also the game loads very
> > > slowly.
> > > System is
> > > Windows XP S/Pack 3
> > > Intel Pentium 4 CPU. 3.00 GHz
> > > Processor. x86 family 15 model 4 stepping 1 GenIntel 3014 MHz
> > > 3.01GHz. 1.50 of RAM.
> > > ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP Graphics with Catalyst Control Cnt
> > > Display is
> > > 800 x 600 32 bit
> > > Refresh rate is 60Hz
> > > I also cannot play AOD,Legend or Anni with this card on factory
> > > settings.
> > > If anyone has the settings I can use it would be a big help.
>
> > > Bob
>
> > In the game menu, options, video, turn OFF all filtering and full screen
> > effects. All the games listed are DX9 games. Underworld is DX9.0c 5th
> > build, which was earlier this year. Underworlds installer updates DX to
> > the
> > latest build. your system seems to be a pretty good one for AoD, maxed
> > settings, except for the video card.http://users.erols.com/chare/video.htm
> > If you look through that list you won't find any advanced Radeon HD cards
> > that are AGP, all are PCI Express 2.0
> > Is your card AGP or PCIe?
> > McG.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> McG
> Lost a hell of a lot of detail after turning off what you suggested .
> I'll keep playing till get to the next Cinematics, them slowly turn
> things on till I get a compromise.
> Card is AGP .
> Is there anything in "Catalyst Control"I can change?. I'm reluctant to
> change anything in case I stuff it up.I changed the 3D to custom to
> smooth the lines,and my display went burko (F&^#ed up) so I had to
> reboot PC and change it back.
> I have also found out that some media files that used to play on the
> latest Windows Media Player now nolonger play, is this the card
> again???
>
> Bob
>
> I think it is the card.  Your card is not ATI branded, they didn't make an
> AGP version.  Which brand is it?  You'd have to go to them and use their
> drivers.
> And yes, going back to AGP with that GPU is whats hurting you.  it was never
> designed for that bus.  and it isn't supposed to be on AGP.  Any weirdness
> may ensue, and apparently has.  My suggestion is an AGP card/GPU what was
> designed to BE used in AGP.   Beyond this, I honestly don't know what to say
> about your issues with it.
> McG.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

McG
The box is marked "HIS - Radeon HD 3850 - ATI cross fireX - AGP 512mb
- 1080p full HD HDMI.
Bob

On Dec 14, 7:50 am, "J.H." <justaguyhangin....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> coyot....RemoveThis@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> > On Dec 14, 12:18 am, "McG." <McCod....RemoveThis@comcast.ne> wrote:
> >> <coyot....RemoveThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>
> >>news:cbb02364-540f-4a9e-926e-37b3c78c3630@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com....
>
> >>> Playing the game is not to bad but when it comes to the Cinematics it
> >>> slows to about a frame every three seconds, also the game loads very
> >>> slowly.
> >>> System is
> >>> Windows XP S/Pack 3
> >>> Intel Pentium 4 CPU. 3.00 GHz
> >>> Processor. x86 family 15 model 4 stepping 1 GenIntel 3014 MHz
> >>> 3.01GHz. 1.50 of RAM.
> >>> ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP Graphics with Catalyst Control Cnt
> >>> Display is
> >>> 800 x 600 32 bit
> >>> Refresh rate is 60Hz
> >>> I also cannot  play AOD,Legend or Anni with this card on factory
> >>> settings.
> >>> If anyone has the settings I can use it would be a big help.
> >>> Bob
> >> In the game menu, options, video, turn OFF all filtering and full screen
> >> effects.  All the games listed are DX9 games.  Underworld is DX9.0c 5th
> >> build, which was earlier this year.  Underworlds installer updates DX to the
> >> latest build.  your system seems to be a pretty good one for AoD, maxed
> >> settings, except for the video card.http://users.erols.com/chare/video..htm
> >> If you look through that list you won't find any advanced Radeon HD cards
> >> that are AGP, all are PCI Express 2.0
> >> Is your card AGP or PCIe?
> >> McG.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > McG
> > Lost a hell of a lot of detail after turning off what you suggested .
> > I'll keep playing till get to the next Cinematics, them slowly turn
> > things on till I get a compromise.
> > Card is AGP .
> > Is there anything in "Catalyst Control"I can change?. I'm reluctant to
> > change anything in case I stuff it up.I changed the 3D to custom to
> > smooth the lines,and my display went burko (F&^#ed up) so I had to
> > reboot PC and change it back.
> > I have also found out that some media files that used to play on the
> > latest Windows Media Player now nolonger play, is this the card
> > again???
>
> > Bob
>
> have you updated to the latest drivers?  if you have and it messed
> things up, go back to the previous drivers.  if you haven't, give it a
> shot.  also, depending on how long the card has been in your computer
> and the env it's in, you might want to open the side and inspect it.
> make sure it's seated properly, and check for dust in the fans, etc.
> could be a heat issue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Have latest drivers and card has been in only 3 weeks. If I reinstall
the old Nvidia Ti 4200 - 8X card everything works fine except UW.This
is why I upgraded to the Radeon HD 3850
Bob

> Your card is not ATI branded

ATI no longer makes any ATI branded cards. They don't list
a HD38xx card for AGP interface either. I only see a HD2600
listed at the ATI web site.

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> On Dec 14, 12:18 am, "McG." <McCod....DeleteThis@comcast.ne> wrote:
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> > <coyot....DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> >news:cbb02364-540f-4a9e-926e-37b3c78c3630@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Playing the game is not to bad but when it comes to the Cinematics it
> > > slows to about a frame every three seconds, also the game loads very
> > > slowly.
> > > System is
> > > Windows XP S/Pack 3
> > > Intel Pentium 4 CPU. 3.00 GHz
> > > Processor. x86 family 15 model 4 stepping 1 GenIntel 3014 MHz
> > > 3.01GHz. 1.50 of RAM.
> > > ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP Graphics with Catalyst Control Cnt
> > > Display is
> > > 800 x 600 32 bit
> > > Refresh rate is 60Hz
> > > I also cannot play AOD,Legend or Anni with this card on factory
> > > settings.
> > > If anyone has the settings I can use it would be a big help.
>
> > > Bob
>
> > In the game menu, options, video, turn OFF all filtering and full screen
> > effects. All the games listed are DX9 games. Underworld is DX9.0c 5th
> > build, which was earlier this year. Underworlds installer updates DX to
> > the
> > latest build. your system seems to be a pretty good one for AoD, maxed
> > settings, except for the video
> > card.http://users.erols.com/chare/video.htm
> > If you look through that list you won't find any advanced Radeon HD
> > cards
> > that are AGP, all are PCI Express 2.0
> > Is your card AGP or PCIe?
> > McG.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> McG
> Lost a hell of a lot of detail after turning off what you suggested .
> I'll keep playing till get to the next Cinematics, them slowly turn
> things on till I get a compromise.
> Card is AGP .
> Is there anything in "Catalyst Control"I can change?. I'm reluctant to
> change anything in case I stuff it up.I changed the 3D to custom to
> smooth the lines,and my display went burko (F&^#ed up) so I had to
> reboot PC and change it back.
> I have also found out that some media files that used to play on the
> latest Windows Media Player now nolonger play, is this the card
> again???
>
> Bob
>
> I think it is the card. Your card is not ATI branded, they didn't make an
> AGP version. Which brand is it? You'd have to go to them and use their
> drivers.
> And yes, going back to AGP with that GPU is whats hurting you. it was
> never
> designed for that bus. and it isn't supposed to be on AGP. Any weirdness
> may ensue, and apparently has. My suggestion is an AGP card/GPU what was
> designed to BE used in AGP. Beyond this, I honestly don't know what to say
> about your issues with it.
> McG.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

McG
The box is marked "HIS - Radeon HD 3850 - ATI cross fireX - AGP 512mb
- 1080p full HD HDMI.
Bob

Ok, things have changed a good bit since ATI was vacuumed up by AMD. They
don't make *cards* anymore, just GPU chipsets and likely reference boards,
but no ATI branded boards at all. And the manufacturers DO have a bunch of
AGP versions out. NewEgg is me friend here.

Your card is so up to date it should be running all those games flawlessly.
So I dunno whassup, I'm at a loss.
McG.

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>> Your card is not ATI branded
>
> ATI no longer makes any ATI branded cards. They don't list
> a HD38xx card for AGP interface either. I only see a HD2600
> listed at the ATI web site.
>
>
Yeah I went there and saw that too. I then went to NewEgg to see who's
selling what now. LOTS of AGP offerings, even in the later GPU's.
Although, ATI designed the GPU to PCIe 2.0 specs, obviously it works in AGP
as well. Else, why would so many board makers produce all those AGP
versions?
McG.