Cheats & Hints

jt august <starsabre DeleteThis @net.att> wrote in
news:starsabre-708926.18374430122008@inetnews.worldnet.att.net:

> In article <op.umyvu3d2h8mbpp@lancer>, "Game cheats" <who DeleteThis @car.es>
> wrote:
>
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> Today at work, one of my coworkers came up to me and offered to set me
> up to set me up with info on how to modify my Nintendo DS to download
> games and save money on games. Now I see this post, and it gets me
> thinking, how many of you guys and gals here are like me, not
> interested in these things, just wanting to collect the real games and
> play them as they were intended?
>
> I know this subject has been brought up before, but its been a couple
> of years, and there has been somewhat of a turnover in the crowd
> here, so I curious the current mindset.
>
> jt
>

Given the many hundreds of real games I own, I'm firmly in the "buy the
real thing" camp. I've got well over 400 PC games, maybe 20 for the PS3,
20-30 for the 360, and a whole room (10x12) devoted to the rest of the
series, all the way back to an original Atari Pong, hand helds, table
tops etc.... I've lost count of the systems I've got.

It might also be due to me working in the software industry. Pretty
hypocritical to expect people to pay for software I write, then go steal
from others. (and yes, I know that none of the original
developers/companies are profiting from me buying 2600 carts at the
Salvation Army, but it's till the principle of hte thing that counts to
me.)

On my recent trip to Baltimore, I took my PSP with me - with Gradius
Collection, the original (JP) Namco Museum, and the port of Final
Fantasy.

Do I have things like Mame and assorted emulators? Yes. Do they see much
use? No. I'd rather use a real controller, on a real console. (mind you,
that will change a bit, once I've got my Pandora). However, even then,
I'll probably stick to games that I actually own, under the premise that
I'm just format shifting for convinience.

Cheers, and happy collecting.

Dan Lingman
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada

In article <Xns9B84D39B282CCdlingmanrogerscom.TakeThisOut@216.196.97.131>,
Dan Lingman <dlingman.TakeThisOut@rogers.com.nospamplease> wrote:

> Do I have things like Mame and assorted emulators? Yes. Do they see much
> use? No.

Now MAME is one emulator I have and do use, simply because I cannot
handle all the games I would like to have. I already have 4, and if I
ever get a pin (Centaur and Fire Poewr being my main wants), that will
be it for space.

Of course, if I ever win Powerball, things would change. Then I could
afford the space to house my real want list (www.klov.com).

I've dabbled in some console emulators, mainly to try games I have yet
to get. Oh, and I have Inty Lives, Acti-V Classics and Atari Redux,
along with several other commercially released emu's for the psx family
and similar.


But also, Dan, I am curious yoru current thought on cheat codes?

jt

jt august wrote:

> Today at work, one of my coworkers came up to me and offered to set me up to set me up with info on how to modify my Nintendo DS to download games and save money on games. Now I see this post, and it gets me thinking,
> how many of you guys and gals here are like me, not interested in these
> things, just wanting to collect the real games and play them as they
> were intended?

JT, this co-worker of yours... do they happen to be a teenager
or a 20 something year old? It's pretty well documented that
kids today respect and value very little, if anything. Especially
physical media. Laws. Parenting. Authority. Boundries in general.

A fellow I know that ran an antique store recently closed his
business after decades of continual declination. And he wasn't ready
for "retirement". His exact words were: "kids don't collect anything
these days". Been a while since I've heard truer words. Disposable
society run by... <insert colourful metaphor here>

Oh and coincidentally, just read an article where teens/
tweens were poled and questioned about cheating. Literal
cheating... on each other! lol All time highest percentage
of that going on and they found that these kids rationalise
their cheating by citing these top examples:

1) Whether or not it's true, I feel like my mate is cheating
on me - so therefore, I am or will be cheating on them.

2) I'm screwed by X aspect of life, so I will in turn,
cheat or steal from this other avenue because I think it
will help balance things out.

3) I've been cheated on in the past, doesn't matter if was
during my current relationship or not, so I will cheat now.

....so there you have it. The greatest form of cheating
often overlooked. With mindsets like this, makes perfect
sense much of society is where its at today. And we won't
even touch the subject of todays teen/tween drug usage
compares to the 80's. LOL!!!!!

In article <TsR6l.46324$lX6.22306@newsfe06.iad>,
Frank Traut <ftraut71.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:

> JT, this co-worker of yours... do they happen to be a teenager
> or a 20 something year old?

Actually, he is the 37 year old Tool Room Supervisor.

jt

jt august wrote:
> In article <TsR6l.46324$lX6.22306@newsfe06.iad>,
> Frank Traut <ftraut71.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> JT, this co-worker of yours... do they happen to be a teenager
>> or a 20 something year old?
>
> Actually, he is the 37 year old Tool Room Supervisor.
>
> jt

Okay - so what's his problem then?! lol Work with me here...
does he have any teenagers? OR does *he* just think it's cool
that he knows how to do this sort of thing?

Amen brother Torch.

I'd still argue that, if given today's technology, older
generations would be a tad bit wiser than to use all of
it as we do today. What's been allowed to transpire socially
is a lesson of the de-evolutionary process. Fitting and
natural given the course, that today's society would become
so dependent, greedy, careless and thoughtless.

The things that are allowed to go on today would have
had no place in a society of 30-50 years ago. The shows,
the music, the way people dress, the way they speak, the
way they do not acknowledge each other as they pass by,
the idiots they choose to emulate and look up to, the
instant gratification, the dullards use of the cell phone,
the going out to eat all the time, the lack of quality time
with your parents, the ease in which you can now divorce,
the mind altering behavioural drugs, the "style" in which
people drive, materialism, lack of integrity, bad financial
decisions, yada, yada, yada. These are all modern "things"
that the corporate machine and politicians alike have spent
years perfecting. Forcing this concept of a "global economy"
down all our throats. No more loyalty. No more chivalry. It
took decades for the worthlessness to come about and now we
witness how quickly it is destroying anything and everything
that ever stood for decency. Greed is the new standard and
practice.

So long common sense. It was nice knowing you for the short
stint you were here!

jt august wrote:

>> You can also thank liberal parenting.
>
> More liberal than the hippies that were parents of 80's teenagers?

Oh yeah. Way more so. Difference now is that today's hippies (you
may not recognise them so easily since their hair is much shorter)
are of the same politically "correct" Torch is talking about. Afraid
to discipline their children because of the way they were raised.

> Kids had too much time back then, and while disposable income was less,
> so was prices.

Where I'm from, most kids had jobs. Much more so than the kids of
today. We weren't afraid of work. Some of us had 2 or more jobs. I
do not remember seeing kids with sooo much downtime as I do today.
We also had hobbies & sports that kept us out of trouble (for the most
part) and between jobs and hobbies - yes, very little unstructured
time to be getting high, getting girls pregnant, etc.

> What, you didn't have cassette tapes? We did.
>
>> We cared about quality.
>
> That's why we used high bias, dolby 2 tapes, not 8-tracks.

Of course. And metal and Dolby C and Dolby S, or Reel to Reel,
blah, blah. Again, I did not witness this culture of copying
music to tape and passing them around like CD's and mp3's
are today. Your mileage obviously varied.

> No, it was so we didn't have to buy everything. We also recorded songs
> off the radio. No liner notes there, either. And if we were lucky, no
> DJ yammering, either. And here in STL, we had the luxury of KSHE and
> their Sunday night "7th Day," where they played whole albums without
> talk over, so other radio stations did similar to compete, which was
> great for radio recording.

So you're saying you were happy with the sound quality of an
FM broadcast and by recording radio, would prevent you from
purchasing albums?

> Laugh as loud as you want, but my friends recorded tapes for each other
> all the time. I still have my dual cassette player recorder for dubbing
> takes.

You standards and experiences are obviously different.

> But to say it was very little back then is just as far under the same
> rock. That was when the home video industry tried to get a tax put on
> every VCR and video tape sold, with said tax going not to the government
> but a fund to be divvied up between the movie and TV studios to
> compensate them for lost revenues, and that was back in 1982. Game
> piracy issues in computer games goes back to the late 70's and the rise
> of the Apple ][ and its competing platforms, and all their many efforts
> at copy protection.

Naturally. Never said piracy did not happen back then. Just trying to
show that it has gotten worse and worse by each passing decade. Still
stand by the ratio of kids stealing today than yesteryear. Vastly more
different platforms TO steal from today that compound this. And many
more social variables that lead to said behaviour.

> I so fully disagree with you, Frank. The only real difference is that
> the trackability of the numbers is easier. Of course, the statistics
> are so easily manipulated, especially by groups like the RIAA, that none
> can be truly believed.

So you're saying that there are zero cultural & social differences
between the decades that would not enable a higher percentage of kids
today to steal? I think you're smarter than that. Experiences or
awareness obviously differ here. I know you have kids, so maybe that's
partly it. So do I. Doesn't make me want to defend them any more though.
Especially when they are the product of a broken home - which is yet
another statistic easily proven today<>yesteryear. And another
contributing factor to the escalated theft and general disrespect.

In article <LN87l.82142$496.40645@newsfe13.iad>,
Frank Traut <ftraut71.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:

> > Actually, he is the 37 year old Tool Room Supervisor.
> >
> > jt
>
> Okay - so what's his problem then?! lol Work with me here...

I have to work with him, that that's difficult enough. Besides, I think
to commute to where you are would to too long.

> does he have any teenagers? OR does *he* just think it's cool
> that he knows how to do this sort of thing?

The latter. Lance thinks he's all that. A few years back, when the
company owner, Troy, got an H2 Hummer, Lance got one, too. There is
also ongoing rumour/jokes about lance and his knee pads (nudge, nudge,
say no more).

jt

In article <16mdnbLGipkRxsDUnZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d DeleteThis @netnitco.net>,
"Turbo Torch" <vairxpert DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> Now we have so many brainwashed politically correct sheeples that can't take
> responsiblity for anything. Buy a $300K house when they can only afford
> $100K and it's "not their fault" when it gets foreclosed on.

Now that is something I fully agree with. To quote Meatloaf from the
song "Everything Louder Than Everything Else,"

"I know that I will never be politically correct."

It started in the 80's, when self-esteem took precedence of self-respect.

jt

jt august wrote:

> Me, personally, less so. But a clean FM transmission by the specs has
> better sound quality than cassette, and then you just have to concern
> yourself with the station's EQ and compression. If a station back in
> the 80's played off cart, a broadcast quality variant of 8-track, then
> the sound quality was tangibly impacted. Excessive compression clips
> fidelity, and some stations set the EQ based on their "target demo,"
> which can over bass or mute certain frequencies, and flatten the
> waveform. But some stations back then played off CD and LP routinely in
> this market (STL), and their sound quality pushed the limits of FM
> broadcast technology, and really sounded great.

Howdy JT - in old fart fashion, I've got to point out that the specs
of FM are not superior to that of cassette. The best FM receivers
have a much more shunted frequency response. Best I'm aware of might
be a Magnum Dynalab that allows 10hz-17khz (and that is QUITE good
by modern FM receiver standards, no way is that even remotely close
to being the norm). No way FM even broadcasts that much of a spectrum,
especially with all the compression going on (even though they are
capable of it). And besides, having the potential to broadcast *any*
said frequencies are always going to default to the source. An FM
receivers s/n ratio is at least 20+ db's or worse compared to the
various Dolby NR's as well. Separation is similar though. And then
there's the ever constant carrier wave. Some really good tape decks and
receivers even attempt to filter or "notch" that frequency out. Another
compromise in sound to be sure.

FM may be "good enough", but it's not to the specs of the modern
cassette. Especially when you compare recording a CD or LP to tape.
All things are not equal here though as I primarily use Kyocera and
Nakamichi decks (20hz-20khz on any formulation tape, 70+db s/n ratios,
etc.). But have used Revox, Tandberg, Sony, Pioneer, etc. in the past.

You're saying in your area, you witnessed a large amount of people
recording FM to tape and being happy enough with the quality that
they did NOT purchase music. I just do not see that as being the
norm nationally. IF you're going to refuse to look at stats, then
just try to think of all the kids, tweens, adults burning, ripping,
tearing, shredding movies to the various mpeg standards today.

Again - it's so common, many people no longer think of it as
something that is fundamentally "wrong".

Computer BBS people knew full well what they were doing and kept it
an underground phenomenon. Another difference today is that the
theft is so visible. That's the defiance and the largest difference
I am talking about.

Staying true to your post though on 'Cheating'... would you be surprised
at all to hear that more high school and college kids cheat on tests
than ever before? Heck, even South Park recently had an episode that
reflects this.

Please try to forgive the ramblings of a bleak and frail old man.
After all, you were interested in hearing from those of us that
still haunt the old haunts

<feeling around> Now where did I set those rose coloured glasses again?

Without going back through this entire (excellent) thread, I want to
make the following points:

* Yes, piracy was widespread long before the internet. People copied
LPs onto tapes, and floppies to floppies. I have an older friend who
says that in his college days, the campus radio station would play an
entire album, start to finish, and actually count down to make it easy
for dubbing onto R2R. True, the real enthusiasts would always use
copying as a backup method, but a lot of people still fell into the
"Give me as much as I can get for free" crowd.

* That said, I think that something HAS changed in our mentality
toward this. In the above examples, the people doing the copying were
generally students. Students would copy because their financial
realities prevented them from getting what they wanted legit. That
didn't make it right, but you at least understood that you were
playing the system. Most often, once you got your own job, you took
pride in being able to buy the real deal instead of pirating. Now,
however, it seems like we no longer give any thought to paying for
stuff, EVER. You want old games? Get an emulator! You want music?
Get Kazaa! Bada-bing, problem solved. It's no longer just students,
I've seen elderly people being told to get their music that way-- and
since they're from a generation that paid for everything, they never
even realize what they're doing isn't honest. They figure since the
cops aren't banging on their door, it must be ok.

* For the record, I'm also getting annoyed at the hyping of "green"
stuff. I am in favor of being responsible in our use of the planet,
but if you're going to call yourself "green", you damn well better be
able to back it up. I want to see that you make a real effort to be
less wasteful in every step of your operation, not "Ummm.... well, we
try to buy recycled paper when it's on sale." Truth be told, I think
the "green" label is a way of getting people to support businesses
that otherwise have poor business models.

* Bringing it back to topic: I believe in having the real deal, buying
the actual carts and CDs. There are times when this is impractical,
but the use of emulators in times of necessity only makes me want the
real thing that much more.

--

Aaron J. Bossig

htttp://www.GodsLabRat.com

In article <2Dr7l.84927$X05.83286@newsfe03.iad>,
Frank Traut <ftraut71.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:

> <feeling around> Now where did I set those rose coloured glasses again?

Rose colored glasses are so last millennium. Today, it's Real-D glasses.

jt