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Since: Jun 07, 2005 Posts: 75
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:20 am
Post subject: [Card Creation] Blue regenerating creature? Archived from groups: rec>games>trading-cards>magic>misc (more info?)
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OK, I've decided to come up with a blue regenerating creature that doesn't
require a second colour anywhere (ability copying doesn't count, sorry
Quicksilver Elemental). Thus far, I've found three entire cards:
Ghost Ship
2UU
Creature - Ship
2/4
Flying
UUU: Regenerate Ghost Ship.
Sea Troll
2U
Creature - Troll
2/1
U: Regenerate Sea Troll. Play this ability only if Sea Troll blocked or was
blocked by a blue creature this turn.
Spiny Starfish
2U
Creature - Starfish
0/1
U: Regenerate Spiny Starfish.
At end of turn, if Spiny Starfish regenerated this turn, put a 0/1 blue
Starfish creature token into play for each time it regenerated this turn.
The Sea Troll's ability is only good against blue, so that's out the window.
What that leaves is Ghost Ship and Spiny Starfish. I don't need to be able
to make tokens, I just want something playable. So, how about:
CARDNAME
2U
Creature - CREATURETYPES
1/2
Flying
Whenever a player plays an instant, you may regenerate target creature.
Good against red, and still playable against other colours, if you include
being able to play things like Brainstorm or Thirst for Knowledge.
Ideas?
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Since: Jun 17, 2005 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:40 am
Post subject: Re: [Card Creation] Blue regenerating creature? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Erich Leibrock <eleibrock.RemoveThis@symdeletethecapspatico.ca> wrote:
> OK, I've decided to come up with a blue regenerating creature that doesn't
> require a second colour anywhere (ability copying doesn't count, sorry
> Quicksilver Elemental). Thus far, I've found three entire cards:
> Ghost Ship
> 2UU
> Creature - Ship
> 2/4
> Flying
> UUU: Regenerate Ghost Ship.
> Sea Troll
> 2U
> Creature - Troll
> 2/1
> U: Regenerate Sea Troll. Play this ability only if Sea Troll blocked or was
> blocked by a blue creature this turn.
> Spiny Starfish
> 2U
> Creature - Starfish
> 0/1
> U: Regenerate Spiny Starfish.
> At end of turn, if Spiny Starfish regenerated this turn, put a 0/1 blue
> Starfish creature token into play for each time it regenerated this turn.
> The Sea Troll's ability is only good against blue, so that's out the window.
> What that leaves is Ghost Ship and Spiny Starfish. I don't need to be able
> to make tokens, I just want something playable. So, how about:
> CARDNAME
> 2U
> Creature - CREATURETYPES
> 1/2
> Flying
> Whenever a player plays an instant, you may regenerate target creature.
> Good against red, and still playable against other colours, if you include
> being able to play things like Brainstorm or Thirst for Knowledge.
> Ideas?
> Erich
Regeneration just isn't considered a particularly blue ability these days (and
if I look at the above three cards, probably never was -- Sea Troll, as you
mention, is pretty limited, the Starfish has wimpy base stats, and the Ghost
Ship, arguably the best of the bunch, requires a whopping three blue mana in
order to regenerate). Blue can *already* save creatures by bouncing them back
to their owner's hand, counterspelling the threat, making them untargetable,
phasing them out, whatever...and you miss *regeneration*?  (Which half the
time doesn't help anyway because of all the 'that creature can't regenerate'
effects flying about.)
That said, I suppose it might be in flavor for blue to have a regenerator with
some weird drawback. Say...
Soldevi Cloud Sentry
2U
Creature -- Human Minion (or whatever)
1/2
Flying
U: Regenerate Soldevi Cloud Sentry. Target opponent may draw a card.
CoP: Red laid in.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:40 am
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"Klaus Mittag" <mittag RemoveThis @informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote in message
news:3glbs6FcnprdU1@news.dfncis.de...
> Erich Leibrock <eleibrock RemoveThis @symdeletethecapspatico.ca> wrote:
>> OK, I've decided to come up with a blue regenerating creature that
>> doesn't
>> require a second colour anywhere (ability copying doesn't count, sorry
>> Quicksilver Elemental). Thus far, I've found three entire cards:
>
>> Ghost Ship
>> Sea Troll
>> Spiny Starfish
>
>> The Sea Troll's ability is only good against blue, so that's out the
>> window.
>> What that leaves is Ghost Ship and Spiny Starfish. I don't need to be
>> able
>> to make tokens, I just want something playable. So, how about:
>
>> CARDNAME
>> 2U
>> Creature - CREATURETYPES
>> 1/2
>> Flying
>> Whenever a player plays an instant, you may regenerate target creature.
>
> Regeneration just isn't considered a particularly blue ability these days
> (and
> if I look at the above three cards, probably never was -- Sea Troll, as
> you
> mention, is pretty limited, the Starfish has wimpy base stats, and the
> Ghost
> Ship, arguably the best of the bunch, requires a whopping three blue mana
> in
> order to regenerate). Blue can *already* save creatures by bouncing them
> back
> to their owner's hand, counterspelling the threat, making them
> untargetable,
> phasing them out, whatever...and you miss *regeneration*? (Which half
> the
> time doesn't help anyway because of all the 'that creature can't
> regenerate'
> effects flying about.)
I know Blue isn't known for regenerating. However, I don't see a problem
with there being a blue regenerator coming up every, oh, say three or four
blocks or so, that doesn't have to rely on another colour or a card like
Dream Thrush to convert your own land into the colour you need. Also, a
buddy of mine (and I can just see Dave DeLaney shaking his head as he reads
this) are designing our own block, with part of the key being allowing
colours to do things (even if badly) that they don't get a chance to do
otherwise. Example: We have a red spell that reads, in part, 'Destroy target
enchantment.' Of course, said card costs more to play then, say, a standard
LD spell, but it also deals damage to the enchantment's controller.
> That said, I suppose it might be in flavor for blue to have a regenerator
> with
> some weird drawback. Say...
>
> Soldevi Cloud Sentry
> 2U
> Creature -- Human Minion (or whatever)
> 1/2
> Flying
> U: Regenerate Soldevi Cloud Sentry. Target opponent may draw a card.
>
> CoP: Red laid in.
Cute  Altho my *ONLY* problem with that is it feeds Red more burn, so it
kinda saves Red that way too. What about a Flicker-type effect - which feels
like Phasing to me
Randomflappyregeneratingweenie
2U
Creautre - Randomflappyregeneratingweeniecreaturetype
1/2
Flying
Whenever an opponent plays an instant, you may pay U. If you do, remove
target creature from the game, then return it to play at the end of turn.
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Since: Jun 17, 2005 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:06 pm
Post subject: Re: [Card Creation] Blue regenerating creature? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Erich Leibrock <eleibrock.RemoveThis@symdeletethecapspatico.ca> wrote:
> Cute Altho my *ONLY* problem with that is it feeds Red more burn, so it
> kinda saves Red that way too. What about a Flicker-type effect - which feels
> like Phasing to me
> Randomflappyregeneratingweenie
> 2U
> Creautre - Randomflappyregeneratingweeniecreaturetype
> 1/2
> Flying
> Whenever an opponent plays an instant, you may pay U. If you do, remove
> target creature from the game, then return it to play at the end of turn.
> Erich
Well, this one doesn't seem to be regenerating anymore, does it?  Looks
reasonable at first glance, though. Some playtesting to see if that ability
is costed just right might be in order.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:00 pm
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"Klaus Mittag" <mittag RemoveThis @informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote in message
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> Erich Leibrock <eleibrock RemoveThis @symdeletethecapspatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> Cute Altho my *ONLY* problem with that is it feeds Red more burn, so
>> it
>> kinda saves Red that way too. What about a Flicker-type effect - which
>> feels
>> like Phasing to me
>
>> Randomflappyregeneratingweenie
>> 2U
>> Creautre - Randomflappyregeneratingweeniecreaturetype
>> 1/2
>> Flying
>> Whenever an opponent plays an instant, you may pay U. If you do, remove
>> target creature from the game, then return it to play at the end of turn.
>
>> Erich
>
> Well, this one doesn't seem to be regenerating anymore, does it? Looks
> reasonable at first glance, though. Some playtesting to see if that
> ability
> is costed just right might be in order.
The fun part is figuring out how to make it feel, well, blue. I will say
this: Ghost Ship in Shandalar was a pain in the ass to deal with
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