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> Or do you mean, will it be a 64-bit ap? If so, I seriously doubt it.

That's the question the OP needs to clarify. It will run for sure,
especially when you use a 32 Bit OS, since the CPUs are fully backwards
compatible. If it will be a native 64 Bit app, who knows.

He say > "...Do you think Oblivion will run on 64 Bit CPU's?..."

I'm not being rude, but your question is silly....forget whatever your
worrying about, it will be fine on any Windows XP or 2000 system.. (Win 98
....I wonder ??)

mouse
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Trimble Bracegirdle wrote:
> He say > "...Do you think Oblivion will run on 64 Bit CPU's?..."
>
> I'm not being rude, but your question is silly....forget whatever your
> worrying about, it will be fine on any Windows XP or 2000 system.. (Win 98
> ...I wonder ??)
>
I think there are too many WIN98s installed to ignore it.
btw, they said in 2002 Morrowind needed at least WIN98 and DX8.1 but I
got it to run on WIN95 with DX8.0 - of course the hotline will not
support such configuration.

I play a lot of games and wanted to stay with WIN 98 ....but about six
months back all new games abandoned 98 and I was "forced" (thats the way it
felt) to WIN XP.....I will be surprised if OBLIVION is "allowed" to work
under 98...
What I am (still) angry at the bastards in the industry for is that they did
not need to do this...deliberatly sabotaging games which if "allowed to"
would work ok with98...by using some odd XP icon (thief 3)....with a
pointless reference to an xp only video routine (DOOM3 installer)
..........games use DIRECT X 9, common to all WIN's...."they" could just have
refused support and said "98 not recomended - use at your own risk" ....I
Love to know the arm twisting Microsoft must have applied ...some games like
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory were specified as 98 ok right up to or just
beyond release then the spec. changed to XP only..

Angry mouse (the 1 oo caint spel)
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>I play a lot of games and wanted to stay with WIN 98 ....but about six
>months back all new games abandoned 98 and I was "forced" (thats the way it
>felt) to WIN XP.....I will be surprised if OBLIVION is "allowed" to work
>under 98...
> What I am (still) angry at the bastards in the industry for is that they
> did not need to do this...deliberatly sabotaging games which if "allowed
> to" would work ok with98...by using some odd XP icon (thief 3)....with a
> pointless reference to an xp only video routine (DOOM3 installer)
> .........games use DIRECT X 9, common to all WIN's...."they" could just
> have refused support and said "98 not recomended - use at your own risk"
> ....I Love to know the arm twisting Microsoft must have applied ...some
> games like Splinter Cell Chaos Theory were specified as 98 ok right up to
> or just beyond release then the spec. changed to XP only..

Get over it, running games under Win98 only makes sense if your computer
lacks the balls to run them under anything else. I have NEVER had a problem
running a game under WinXP.

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> Get over it, running games under Win98 only makes sense if your computer
> lacks the balls to run them under anything else. I have NEVER had a
problem
> running a game under WinXP.

Make that *current* game. No chance in hell that you'd get Command&Conquer
for Windows 95 to run under XP. Some older DirectX titles call kernel32.dll
functions that simply no NT based OS has.

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Wes wrote:
>>I play a lot of games and wanted to stay with WIN 98 ....but about six
>>months back all new games abandoned 98 and I was "forced" (thats the way it
>>felt) to WIN XP.....I will be surprised if OBLIVION is "allowed" to work
>>under 98...
>>What I am (still) angry at the bastards in the industry for is that they
>>did not need to do this...deliberatly sabotaging games which if "allowed
>>to" would work ok with98...by using some odd XP icon (thief 3)....with a
>>pointless reference to an xp only video routine (DOOM3 installer)
>>.........games use DIRECT X 9, common to all WIN's...."they" could just
>>have refused support and said "98 not recomended - use at your own risk"
>>....I Love to know the arm twisting Microsoft must have applied ...some
>>games like Splinter Cell Chaos Theory were specified as 98 ok right up to
>>or just beyond release then the spec. changed to XP only..
>
>
> Get over it, running games under Win98 only makes sense if your computer
> lacks the balls to run them under anything else. I have NEVER had a problem
> running a game under WinXP.
>
>
Then please tell us how to run Arena under Windows XP. I tried for a
couple of weeks and almost got it working but finally gave up. There
were far too many additional programs needed to get it to work at all
and trying to get everything to play nice was not worth the effort.
There are also a lot of games like the original Wing Commander titles
that will Never work under XP. Between the direct to hardware interface
and the hardware necessary to run XP there is no way they can ever be
made to work.

"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder.RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
news:grHZe.315616$5N3.119843@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

> Wes wrote:
>>>I play a lot of games and wanted to stay with WIN 98 ....but about
>>>six months back all new games abandoned 98 and I was "forced"
>>>(thats the way it felt) to WIN XP.....I will be surprised if
>>>OBLIVION is "allowed" to work under 98...
>>>What I am (still) angry at the bastards in the industry for is that
>>>they did not need to do this...deliberatly sabotaging games which
>>>if "allowed to" would work ok with98...by using some odd XP icon
>>>(thief 3)....with a pointless reference to an xp only video routine
>>>(DOOM3 installer) .........games use DIRECT X 9, common to all
>>>WIN's...."they" could just have refused support and said "98 not
>>>recomended - use at your own risk" ....I Love to know the arm
>>>twisting Microsoft must have applied ...some games like Splinter
>>>Cell Chaos Theory were specified as 98 ok right up to or just
>>>beyond release then the spec. changed to XP only..
>>
>>
>> Get over it, running games under Win98 only makes sense if your
>> computer lacks the balls to run them under anything else. I have
>> NEVER had a problem running a game under WinXP.
>>
>>
> Then please tell us how to run Arena under Windows XP. I tried for
> a couple of weeks and almost got it working but finally gave up.
> There were far too many additional programs needed to get it to work
> at all and trying to get everything to play nice was not worth the
> effort. There are also a lot of games like the original Wing
> Commander titles that will Never work under XP. Between the direct
> to hardware interface and the hardware necessary to run XP there is
> no way they can ever be made to work.

While I've never tried Arena I had absolutely no problem running Wing
Commander 1 and 2 under XP. I belive (but am not sure) that I used
DOSBox to run these games. I've also been able to get XCom, Alien
Legacy, Starflight II, and numerous other games running in XP by using
DOSBox.

Seraphim wrote:
> "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net> wrote in
> news:grHZe.315616$5N3.119843@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>>Wes wrote:
>>
>>>>I play a lot of games and wanted to stay with WIN 98 ....but about
>>>>six months back all new games abandoned 98 and I was "forced"
>>>>(thats the way it felt) to WIN XP.....I will be surprised if
>>>>OBLIVION is "allowed" to work under 98...
>>>>What I am (still) angry at the bastards in the industry for is that
>>>>they did not need to do this...deliberatly sabotaging games which
>>>>if "allowed to" would work ok with98...by using some odd XP icon
>>>>(thief 3)....with a pointless reference to an xp only video routine
>>>>(DOOM3 installer) .........games use DIRECT X 9, common to all
>>>>WIN's...."they" could just have refused support and said "98 not
>>>>recomended - use at your own risk" ....I Love to know the arm
>>>>twisting Microsoft must have applied ...some games like Splinter
>>>>Cell Chaos Theory were specified as 98 ok right up to or just
>>>>beyond release then the spec. changed to XP only..
>>>
>>>
>>>Get over it, running games under Win98 only makes sense if your
>>>computer lacks the balls to run them under anything else. I have
>>>NEVER had a problem running a game under WinXP.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Then please tell us how to run Arena under Windows XP. I tried for
>>a couple of weeks and almost got it working but finally gave up.
>>There were far too many additional programs needed to get it to work
>>at all and trying to get everything to play nice was not worth the
>>effort. There are also a lot of games like the original Wing
>>Commander titles that will Never work under XP. Between the direct
>>to hardware interface and the hardware necessary to run XP there is
>>no way they can ever be made to work.
>
>
> While I've never tried Arena I had absolutely no problem running Wing
> Commander 1 and 2 under XP. I belive (but am not sure) that I used
> DOSBox to run these games. I've also been able to get XCom, Alien
> Legacy, Starflight II, and numerous other games running in XP by using
> DOSBox.


I tried DOSBox with Arena and had to make so many changes to the default
settings and the Config.NT file to get anywhere that I finally gave up.
It was easier to run it on a dedicated Windows 98 computer or under
Windows 2000. My computer may be set up differently from the "normal"
user and I was trying to use the original CD of Arena so this may have
been part of my problems.

> You mean without downloading the XP patch from the publishers website?
>
> ftp://ftp.westwood.com/pub/ccgold/CCGOLDXPPATCH.ZIP

Heh, I actually picked the one (?) example where I'm wrong apparently